d16 boosted driving fine without engine management !
ok, so me and a friend jus boosted our d16s , iam using an ihi turbo, with vafc and 450cc injectors , and hes using a t3/t4 turbo, with NO FUKIN ENGINE MANAGEMENT !! WOT THE FUK IS GOIN ON i use to have huge arguements with him about engine management, and he use to tell me the car would run fine if its on 8psi with no engine management, WTF hes been driving his car for 5 days and its fine, why the ---- wount it blow up ??? wots going on ? ?? |
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He's not even using an FMU? No check valves in the MAP sensor? He's got to be throwing a code for that and trust me if he's not supplying the engine with more fuel for that added air and pulling back timing, he will blow the engine in time.
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rap his engine in fishing net so parts dont stray too far
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Originally Posted by msahebzadha1
he use to tell me
the car would run fine if its on 8psi with no engine management You could have a huge t3/t4 and if it boosts past 5k, shift before. |
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Your friend is retarded. Plus the hack is barely considered engine management.
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He's probably sporting a .63 a/r or bigger on the turbine and it's not even spooling. Haha what a retard. :1 His car must feel slow.
Trust me, no D16 on a stock ecu is going to survive any amount of boost for very long. So if it's been running fine for a while then -> what I said above. |
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ok he aint really my friend lol, he really pisses me off, coz he keeps on dissin on me for my ihi turbo coz its not as big as his , but i neva wanted to say anything coz i knew its gona blow up ! but the fukers been driving around and its still not blown , so i was like WTF !! maybe he aint been in boost much yet , coz it fukin kicks in at 5000rpm , wots the use ? iam jus pissed, i wana see it blow up !! and ill post the video for u guys, hopefully iam gona ask him for a race, and then BOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM hahahaha and btw , hes not even using a SHITTY FMU !! |
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Tell him you'll race him 3 times from 20 mph to 120 ;D I'm sure that'll kill his engine.
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yep will do !!! and iam not even kidding about the vids , ill make sure he remembers this !! ------- ! |
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gonna be sweet. his d16 will explode, ou'll bull up laughing, then take off, your fmu'd ---- blows at the redline, you give each other head. icannt type today
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Originally Posted by msahebzadha1
yep will do !!! and iam not even kidding about the vids , ill make sure he remembers this !! ------- ! yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo Eat a taco |
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ohh sorry , iam not calling you guys "-------" iam calling the guy whos driving his car with any engine management, I HATE THAT FUKER, |
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Dumbest thread EVAR!
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Chris do what i do delate these threads by these noobs. keeps the yo dawg like turbozzz rule and fuel management is like wack
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IBTL!
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Just delete it. When he's got the video he can make a new one! :y
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Re: d16 boosted driving fine without engine management !
Originally Posted by msahebzadha1
ok, so me and a friend jus boosted our d16s , iam using an ihi turbo, with vafc and 450cc injectors , and hes using a t3/t4 turbo, with NO FUKIN ENGINE MANAGEMENT !! WOT THE FUK IS GOIN ON i use to have huge arguements with him about engine management, and he use to tell me the car would run fine if its on 8psi with no engine management, WTF hes been driving his car for 5 days and its fine, why the ---- wount it blow up ??? wots going on ? ?? why is he boosting if he cant afford to do it right? uberdata is free and works great for cheap turbo setups... he could get someone else to chip it and be safe and not have to worry. ---- it may run good for 5 days if its a good motor it might last a month... but that ---- is not gonna last long lemme tell u that. i bet its smoking like a ----------er on 8psi. |
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nope no smoke, btw were in london, when the fuk is it gona blow ! |
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well here you go, i made the vedio , and raced him like 4-5 times like one of you said, and still it didnt blow !! but i was well happy that i beat him !!, heres the link http://videos.streetfire.net/video/w...00824BB831.htm |
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You were racing in the rain, around other cars?
Awesomest video EVAR!!11 PS have you ever touched your sister in a special way? |
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hey what kind of manifold is that???????
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You both deserve blown engines. If not for your stupid racing in the rain around other cars, I'd just want him to be impaled by a dolphin penis. But since you both are being idiots, I hope you get impaled by a whale penis while a giant squid rips your legs off and a monkey in a coconut tree throws poo poo at you! Not really, but damn, get some sense. |
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I think you and your friend are both fags. Racing in the rain in traffic. you should both be killed.
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SOMEONE HAS TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF MANIFOLD HE IS USING, ANYONE HAVE AN IDEA???
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It looks like a stock manifold with red paint on it. |
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nah man, the exhaust/turbo manifold. :y
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That's the rare CDM Velocity Flow Ultra Max Crack-on-your-Ass Ur-A-Fag 2000 I can sell you one for $1500, and that's low-balling it. |
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haha, i got one, but nobody knows who its made by, but if you got an extra one just leave it at your moms house for me, i will pick it up later.
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if hes not running any fuel management at all on stock map = limpmode and dead motor i call bullshit
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to understan what happen read this
Because we are adding air to the air side of the air fuel ratio with the turbo we must also add a proportional amount of fuel. If there is not enough fuel to compliment the extra air being forced into the cylinders a lean condition will be created which will cause detonation. Detonation is the enemy on a turbocharged car. Detonation is an uncontrolled, very forceful, explosion in the cylinder that can be audible as knocking. If you want to know what detonation sounds like, take a couple of small ball bearings and put them in an empty aluminum soda can. Now shake the can vigorously and remember that sound. If you should ever hear that sound while driving your car you should avoid the condition (usually WOT, wide open throttle) that creates the sound until you can ascertain its cause. Also be aware that a lean condition makes more heat. This can burn pistons, piston rings, valves, and destroy spark plugs. The funny thing is that, generally speaking, leaner fuel mixtures create more power. and please note if the factory ecu saw the boost it must cut off the engine and cel will jump. unless that he may be use any fucken cheap chip. underboost |
Re: d16 boosted driving fine without engine management !
Originally Posted by underboost
Because we are adding air to the air side of the air fuel ratio with the turbo we must also add a proportional amount of fuel. If there is not enough fuel to compliment the extra air being forced into the cylinders a lean condition will be created which will cause detonation.
Originally Posted by underboost
If you want to know what detonation sounds like, take a couple of small ball bearings and put them in an empty aluminum soda can. Now shake the can vigorously and remember that sound. If you should ever hear that sound while driving your car you should avoid the condition (usually WOT, wide open throttle) that creates the sound until you can ascertain its cause.
Originally Posted by underboost
Also be aware that a lean condition makes more heat.
Originally Posted by underboost
The funny thing is that, generally speaking, leaner fuel mixtures create more power.
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Re: d16 boosted driving fine without engine management !
meh its prolly some h/s kid that bought his car boosted and jsut doenst know what the ---- he is talking about
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ermmm, ok sorry about racing on the streets but theres no fukin place to race ere, :) |
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I race on the streets. Many here do.
I do not do it in the rain, I *DO NOT* do it around traffic. It's called time and place. |
Re: d16 boosted driving fine without engine management !
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Originally Posted by underboost
generally speaking, leaner fuel mixtures create more power.
I beg to differ. Just going going from 12.8x to 11.8xx lost me about 4-5% torque. To me, that is not negligible. Going from 10 to 11 for example would make even more of a difference. |
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From lean misfire to rich breakup, fuel *with ignition properly tuned* accounts for an average 3% variance in power. Two degrees of well placed ignition timing will do you better.
Noticeable changes in power from small variances in AFR are a good sign of ignition timing fuckage. |
Re: d16 boosted driving fine without engine management !
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
From lean misfire to rich breakup, fuel *with ignition properly tuned* accounts for an average 3% variance in power. Two degrees of well placed ignition timing will do you better.
Noticeable changes in power from small variances in AFR are a good sign of ignition timing fuckage. Lean misfire is cause by ignition breakup. That is contributed by a weak ignition system or poorly gapped plugs <- catch 22, gapping the plugs down creates a weaker spark. |
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im with jd, timing is were all the power is at
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Re: d16 boosted driving fine without engine management !
MADMAX, I disagree slightly to strongly with everything except gap is in direct proportion to spark strength - ASSuming constant air gap resistance, which does not occur in turbo, or any, gasoline engine.
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conclusion?
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