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cheapest way to manage 15-20lbs

Old 06-22-2003, 11:59 PM
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ok i dont know honda electronics for *****.. so here i am reasearching. what needs to be done? i know my camr's ecu would freak out past 3 psi, we ended up using check valves. similar here? and what about everything elxe?
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Old 06-23-2003, 12:55 AM
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15-20 psi and cheap don't go together in the same sentance. You should look into getting a stand alone fuel management system like zdyne, hondata, AEM ems, etc... for fuel management. You will also need to build your motor if you plan on running that much boost.
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Old 06-23-2003, 09:05 PM
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obviously, i planned on buying forged pistons and rods, and cryogenically treating all of the internals. the mechanical stuff i unerstand, just not sure on engine managment electronics. i just wondered what my options were
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Old 06-23-2003, 11:43 PM
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what ever you are forget or not, if you have a shitty engine management at 20 psi, it will blow.

Don't be cheap on that thing

Good luck boy
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Old 06-23-2003, 11:46 PM
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If you are running 15-20, you should definately run stand alone. Get ready to spend a G.. definately not cheap.
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Old 06-24-2003, 12:19 PM
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let me add, i'm not one of those guys coming in and asking how to spend less than 500 and get 900 hp out of there D15.. i'm tlaking about building a serious reliable motor here. just wondering what my options were. i planned on a stanaole unit, but wahts out there
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Old 06-24-2003, 12:55 PM
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Sorry I wasn't implying that you didn't know your ---- about building the engine. I can almost guarantee that you know more than I do because I am new to turbos and building honda engines myself.

I stated in the first reply you should check out hondata, zdyne, AEM ems. There's also a list in the FAQ that has a few more stand alone systems you can check out.
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Old 06-24-2003, 01:11 PM
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I see a couple problems and possible solutions.

Depending on OBD you can and cannot use certain Stand alones. What setup are you running? I do suggest standalone, either ZDyne or Hondata or Ghetto Dyne.
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Old 06-25-2003, 01:52 PM
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Correct, depending on your personal setup there are different systems devised for your needs.

"Cheap" would be Ghettodyne. It's a PM6/PM7 ROM editor. This would be OBD0. Depending on your your motor (SOHC vs DOHC either with VTec) tuning can be "creative". When I used GhD, I did have a VTec setup. Since VTec on PM6 code is not activated through the ECU, there were no speed dependent conditions to activate VTec. When I hit that RPM, it was always activated. So, I run VTec tuning above my cross over, and standard tuning below. This can be done with DOHC as well.

If you're OBD0 VTec (PR3/PW0), I would suggest Hondata over Zdyne. Simply because Zdyne doesn't support PR3/PW0. They will keep your ECU and send you a modified PM6.

Of you're OBD1 or greater, Hondata, or AEM EMS are your choices. There is some "homemade" software called "UberChip" or some such. The author has dissappeared *and has a bad rep for lack of product support - J.Davis* However, if you can get a copy of the software, an a ROM (it's P75 code) it's not too bad. The GUI is a little difficult to work with, but hey, it's "cheap" and it works.

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Old 06-25-2003, 09:10 PM
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actually i have neither car nor engine yet, i'm going to be bulding a B18. i'm real new to honda too
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