Republican Economic Ideology: Ruining Economies since One Million Years B.C.
09-30-2008, 09:17 PM
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Re: Republican Economic Ideology: Ruining Economies since One Million Years B.C.
Originally Posted by Toysrme
Which is a regulated, free-market economy.
Not the laissez faire (wide open/deregulated) free-market economy Republicans hold as their goal.
Not a central planned economy that many totalitarianistic governments fail at.
The overall point is exactly what I said in the beginning in both threads. Regardless of any other issue at hand. Republicans will always give an overall economic push towards zero economic rules & regulations. I have shown that regardless of republican party or not (even pre-party). That core idea itself has always been doomed to failure. It has lead in our own country to failure time after time after time.
Sure... They want regulations to stop things now just because its the savvy thing to do. (They'ed otherwise crucify themselves politically) But like I said their goal is zero regulations. So if they vote for it today. Will they really keep it later
Bill Clinton did not reduce regulations, he added regulations - and look where we are now with all these bad loans that are sinking banks and the credit market. FAILURE.
09-30-2008, 09:20 PM
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Re: Republican Economic Ideology: Ruining Economies since One Million Years B.C.
i think toyrsme is just too stupid to manage his own life, so he looks to govt to do it for him
i think he is too stupid to make money on his own, he looks to govt to steal it from me to give to him
hey toysrme. was sally mae and freddie mac republican ideals? those two insitutions were federally funded and highly govt regulated. they collapsed... and are the #1 cause of this "crisis".
they are both democrat institutions. they both failed despite their huge regulation... in fact its because of that regulation they collapsed.
obama is the #2 receiver of donations by these "companies". biden is #4 i think...
THEY FAILED.
i think he is too stupid to make money on his own, he looks to govt to steal it from me to give to him
hey toysrme. was sally mae and freddie mac republican ideals? those two insitutions were federally funded and highly govt regulated. they collapsed... and are the #1 cause of this "crisis".
they are both democrat institutions. they both failed despite their huge regulation... in fact its because of that regulation they collapsed.
obama is the #2 receiver of donations by these "companies". biden is #4 i think...
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Stability: Freddie Mac's retained portfolio plays an important role in making sure there's a stable supply of money for lenders to make the home loans new homebuyers need and an available supply of workforce housing in our communities.
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Affordability: Financing housing for low- and moderate-income families has been a key part of Freddie Mac's business since we opened our doors. Freddie Mac's vision is that families must be able both to afford to purchase a home and to keep that home.
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Liquidity: Freddie Mac makes sure there's a stable supply of money for lenders to make the loans new homebuyers need. This gives everyone better access to homefinan
Stability: Freddie Mac's retained portfolio plays an important role in making sure there's a stable supply of money for lenders to make the home loans new homebuyers need and an available supply of workforce housing in our communities.
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Affordability: Financing housing for low- and moderate-income families has been a key part of Freddie Mac's business since we opened our doors. Freddie Mac's vision is that families must be able both to afford to purchase a home and to keep that home.
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Liquidity: Freddie Mac makes sure there's a stable supply of money for lenders to make the loans new homebuyers need. This gives everyone better access to homefinan
09-30-2008, 09:22 PM
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Re: Republican Economic Ideology: Ruining Economies since One Million Years B.C.
Originally Posted by random-strike
free market capitalism is an american ideal not a republican ideal.
Allowing a free market to work is not the same as letting crooks do as they please. We still have regulations to prevent all but the most retarded (read: people who get loans for more than they can afford to pay) people from being taken seriously advantage of. You are not describing republican views at all.
Honestly if you think people are being taken advantage of financially by companies in a free market - you should be advising that those people seek financial education, not more government regulation that just dumbs down our economy to serve the financially inept such as yourself.
09-30-2008, 09:27 PM
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Re: Republican Economic Ideology: Ruining Economies since One Million Years B.C.
whats bad for the american people and the economy... is whats good for democrats to try and win elections.
My only thoughts are, I dont want the goverment to tell me what to drive, where to smoke, where to work/live, or where and IF I can be treated for medical illness.
My only thoughts are, I dont want the goverment to tell me what to drive, where to smoke, where to work/live, or where and IF I can be treated for medical illness.
09-30-2008, 09:31 PM
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Re: Republican Economic Ideology: Ruining Economies since One Million Years B.C.
And as far as this "crisis" goes, it's nothing more than a recession. It may last for years, but that does not change what it is. As long as one has prepared for a recession, it's nothing to be worried about. If you invested a ---- load of money into real estate or companies such as freddie mac, fannie mae, washington mutual, merril lynch - yeah you're fucked. Other than that, business as usual.
Some of these weaker companies need to be allowed to fail in order to clear the under brush and leave the strong institutions standing. This is a free market economy working, and people are freaked out by it. Some might point to the biggest point drop in the stock market we've ever had, but that is driven entirely by fear that something may fail and all their stocks could go to zero.
I like how nobody pointed out that today the stock market regained 60% of what it lost yesterday. Nobody pointed out how strong the dollar was today, or the $10 drop in oil yesterday with only roughly 20% of that drop being recovered today. In just a week or two I've seen gas prices in my area drop nearly 60 cents. Some crisis we're in, but nobody bothers to check the silver lining.
Some of these weaker companies need to be allowed to fail in order to clear the under brush and leave the strong institutions standing. This is a free market economy working, and people are freaked out by it. Some might point to the biggest point drop in the stock market we've ever had, but that is driven entirely by fear that something may fail and all their stocks could go to zero.
I like how nobody pointed out that today the stock market regained 60% of what it lost yesterday. Nobody pointed out how strong the dollar was today, or the $10 drop in oil yesterday with only roughly 20% of that drop being recovered today. In just a week or two I've seen gas prices in my area drop nearly 60 cents. Some crisis we're in, but nobody bothers to check the silver lining.
09-30-2008, 09:37 PM
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Re: Republican Economic Ideology: Ruining Economies since One Million Years B.C.
Originally Posted by bakercivic95
whats bad for the american people and the economy... is whats good for democrats to try and win elections.
My only thoughts are, I dont want the goverment to tell me what to drive, where to smoke, where to work/live, or where and IF I can be treated for medical illness.
My only thoughts are, I dont want the goverment to tell me what to drive, where to smoke, where to work/live, or where and IF I can be treated for medical illness.
As far as where and if you can be treated for medical illness, that relies entirely on how good your health insurance is and how much insurance you can afford.
The bottom line here is that Democratic government officials are far more likely to tell you what you can and can not do than a Republican official.
09-30-2008, 09:44 PM
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Re: Republican Economic Ideology: Ruining Economies since One Million Years B.C.
Originally Posted by n1ghtm0nkey
The government will do almost all of those things with Democratic leaders in office. Just last year Illinois passed a bill that bans smoking inside and within 15 feet of the entrance to all businesses. If I'm not mistaken this includes bars and all other establishments where smoking was widely accepted before.
As far as where and if you can be treated for medical illness, that relies entirely on how good your health insurance is and how much insurance you can afford.
The bottom line here is that Democratic government officials are far more likely to tell you what you can and can not do than a Republican official.
As far as where and if you can be treated for medical illness, that relies entirely on how good your health insurance is and how much insurance you can afford.
The bottom line here is that Democratic government officials are far more likely to tell you what you can and can not do than a Republican official.
and a hate the old "do as I say not as I do" ... drive a gay *** hybrid while all the govment drives SUVs and expensive luxury cars. I think tax paid gov. vehicles should be those 8k one time use disposable KIAs...
09-30-2008, 10:50 PM
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Re: Republican Economic Ideology: Ruining Economies since One Million Years B.C.
Still noone touching anything... Its amazing how most junior or senior's in high school can tell you that Republican Part = laissez faire economic plan. Yet Republican's themselves live in denial about their economic choices.
Laissez-faire means let it be, no rules, wide open, unregulated, leave it alone.
Republicans ideas make their party shoot for no economic rules. No government intervention of any kind. Yes, yes live in denial! Don't we all ache for the Republican dream of an uneven playing field.
Laissez-faire means let it be, no rules, wide open, unregulated, leave it alone.
Republicans ideas make their party shoot for no economic rules. No government intervention of any kind. Yes, yes live in denial! Don't we all ache for the Republican dream of an uneven playing field.
10-01-2008, 03:43 AM
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Re: Republican Economic Ideology: Ruining Economies since One Million Years B.C.
Originally Posted by Toysrme
Still noone touching anything... Its amazing how most junior or senior's in high school can tell you that Republican Part = laissez faire economic plan. Yet Republican's themselves live in denial about their economic choices.
most high schoolers would tell you that FDR was a great president too
