obongo's aunt is an illegal alien
11-01-2008, 11:28 PM
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Re: obongo's aunt is an illegal alien
Originally Posted by GhostOfDr.Boost
Well, in reality anybody living in this country is. There really isn't a way around that unless you're a bum and even then you're still a slave to a point. 
The government has us all by the ***** and there is no way around it. You can be pissed about it, but that's not going to change anything. 
The government has us all by the ***** and there is no way around it. You can be pissed about it, but that's not going to change anything.
11-01-2008, 11:31 PM
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Re: obongo's aunt is an illegal alien
Originally Posted by rawr
Chuck Baldwin?
11-01-2008, 11:34 PM
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Re: obongo's aunt is an illegal alien
Originally Posted by random-strike
maybe it would be for the best if obongo was elected. and this country collapsed and we could start again 
11-01-2008, 11:36 PM
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Re: obongo's aunt is an illegal alien
Originally Posted by random-strike
you are right.
maybe it would be for the best if obongo was elected. and this country collapsed and we could start again
maybe it would be for the best if obongo was elected. and this country collapsed and we could start again
11-01-2008, 11:41 PM
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Re: obongo's aunt is an illegal alien
Originally Posted by heyseemoreh22
Good Caleb and Dennis. ---- Jonnys world up. Dennis your typing skills really really shows that you belive everything you think is tptd. Well done Sir 
11-01-2008, 11:44 PM
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Re: obongo's aunt is an illegal alien
Originally Posted by rawr
Chuck Baldwin?
Although the constitution party is moderately wacked out. Barr is a party hopping, mustache riding homosexual.
I can't really even justify voting this year. Democracies are failures.
Although the constitution party is moderately wacked out. Barr is a party hopping, mustache riding homosexual.
I can't really even justify voting this year. Democracies are failures.
but our system is a republic.
democracy is mob rule. as the very famous quote goes democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for dinner.
11-02-2008, 12:07 AM
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Re: obongo's aunt is an illegal alien
It wouldn't change. The game of politics will remain regardless of what type of government exists.
It's a game of persuasion. First, an issue that's beyond an individuals ability to handle is created. The urgency of the problem is then hyper inflated, citing what may happen if action is not taken. Then a limited solution set is created, instantly making the actors responsible the leaders and giving them 'just' reason to take resources from those who would be benefiting from their solution.
People enjoy feeling like they're taking part in solving a problem. If you present a problem to them, tell them why it's important as to why they support you because you're going to fix the said problem, then they will support you because it makes them feel special on the inside to take part in something larger than themselves.
In our system, democrats use inequality, need, care, guilt and intellectual haughtiness to appeal to their base. Republicans pander to fear , religion, nostalgia, intellectual stubbornness, patriotism and tradition. You chose one way, we'll end up in a controlled, socialist society which needs to become an authoritarian state in order to exist. You chose the other way, we'll end up in debt from pointless wars and the building of an authoritarian state that will have to resort to fascism in order to support its existence.
Each side takes power in it's own little way and it's always going to benefit Washington. That's how they make a living and they're never going to turn on their own kind. They just do it for pretend on television.
We'd be a real republic if any of the elected officials cared what our social contract said. But that document apparently only exists now to make people feel like they're having some say in how hard the government is going to rape them, and if or if not lubrication will be used in said rape.
It's a game of persuasion. First, an issue that's beyond an individuals ability to handle is created. The urgency of the problem is then hyper inflated, citing what may happen if action is not taken. Then a limited solution set is created, instantly making the actors responsible the leaders and giving them 'just' reason to take resources from those who would be benefiting from their solution.
People enjoy feeling like they're taking part in solving a problem. If you present a problem to them, tell them why it's important as to why they support you because you're going to fix the said problem, then they will support you because it makes them feel special on the inside to take part in something larger than themselves.
In our system, democrats use inequality, need, care, guilt and intellectual haughtiness to appeal to their base. Republicans pander to fear , religion, nostalgia, intellectual stubbornness, patriotism and tradition. You chose one way, we'll end up in a controlled, socialist society which needs to become an authoritarian state in order to exist. You chose the other way, we'll end up in debt from pointless wars and the building of an authoritarian state that will have to resort to fascism in order to support its existence.
Each side takes power in it's own little way and it's always going to benefit Washington. That's how they make a living and they're never going to turn on their own kind. They just do it for pretend on television.
Originally Posted by random-strike
democracies are failures.
but our system is a republic.
democracy is mob rule. as the very famous quote goes democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for dinner.
but our system is a republic.
democracy is mob rule. as the very famous quote goes democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for dinner.
11-02-2008, 12:15 AM
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Re: obongo's aunt is an illegal alien
Rawr you pretty much put what I believe and can't really get out into words.
11-02-2008, 12:26 AM
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Re: obongo's aunt is an illegal alien
It takes a lot of practice before you can articulate what you're thinking without falling into little fallacies or getting caught up in the details. The more you argue, the better you get. So state your opinions whenever the opportunity presents it's self and defend them to the best of your ability to ration at the time.
11-02-2008, 12:34 AM
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Re: obongo's aunt is an illegal alien
Originally Posted by rawr
It takes a lot of practice before you can articulate what you're thinking without falling into little fallacies or getting caught up in the details.
