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Old Feb 4, 2003 | 02:29 PM
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this engine is out of a 87 integra....just wondering of the specs, and is this the same engine in a earlier post d16a1....just wondering it is for sale for pretty cheap...thanx
Old Feb 4, 2003 | 04:56 PM
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Brown top ZC's are the JDM version of the D16a1, but better. The ZC's had better cams, different TB, better intake manifold than the D16a1. All parts are interchangeable between the two engines. Brown tops can be anywhere between 120-135hp depending on which one you get. The best ones are the ones that came out of the 1st gen CRX in Japan. They are also found in the JDM 1st gen integra.

I ran a 15.3 @ 89mph with a D16a1 and a 15.1 @90mph with the brown top ZC. Both with the same mods and in the same car.
Where did you find one and for how much?
They are fairly rare.
I picked mine up from a place in Toronto.
Old Feb 4, 2003 | 07:33 PM
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So are the D16A1's DOHC or SOHC? And the brown top ZC is the same thing but better because its JDM right? Honda's just made too many good motors for me to keep track of.
Old Feb 4, 2003 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by sean2133
So are the D16A1's DOHC or SOHC? And the brown top ZC is the same thing but better because its JDM right? Honda's just made too many good motors for me to keep track of.
D16a1 86-89 all DOHC

The Brown Top ZC is just like the Black Top ZC, but it has the earlier style mount setup on it, so you can bolt it in 1g crx's and 1g integras.

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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 12:21 AM
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ZC simply means that it is a D-series 1.6l motor in SOHC, DOHC, SOHC VTEC mode and VTEC-E.

basic tree of a ZC started in '84 with 'brown top ZC (DOHC)' found on the JDM Civic/CRX Si (rated at 135ps - later downgraded to 120ps), then in '88 followed by the DOHC ZC and SOHC ZC which was found on Civic/CRX Si as well as 4WD EF Civic wagons and so on. (EF chassis)

90-3 Integra got ZC SOHC in Carb and FI version. 90-1 where non-obd, 92-3 where OBDI type but same specs otherwise.

In '92 thrid gen ZC was created in 2 forms. OBDI ZC DOHC, SOHC VTEC (both rated at 130ps). these were for the EG/EH chassis (Civic Si/Del Sol VXi/Domani). equivalent to our D16Z6 (sohc vtec). the DOHC was the same as previous generation but with OBDI electronics and some minor updates.

4th generation ZC was created in JDM as non-vtec and vtec ZC for the OBDII cars (our d16y7 and d16y
-jdm non-vtec zc obdII got y8 intake manifold on most of the cars and different type distributor.

horespower figures follow as :
84-9 DOHC ZC Carb = 115ps (brown cover)
84-7 DOHC ZC = 135ps (browncover)
88-9 DOHC ZC = 120ps (brown cover)
88-91 DOHC ZC = 130ps (black cover)
88-91 SOHC ZC = 120ps
90-5 SOHC ZC carb =105-110ps
92-5 DOHC ZC = 130ps
92-5 SOHC VTEC = 130ps
96-00 SOHC VTEC = 130ps
96-00 SOHC = 120ps
Old Feb 5, 2003 | 10:29 AM
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hmmmmm I got the 87 ZC brown cover more powe for me
Old Feb 5, 2003 | 03:17 PM
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there is a 87 integra brown cover zc for sale at a local junk yard for 200 bucks....now is this a good deal, and would it bolt directly to my d16a6 si transmission? because if it does, i am getting it...!!
Old Feb 5, 2003 | 03:39 PM
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The black top 2g and 1g brown top are rated at the same horsepower... 135

Old Feb 5, 2003 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by brax90si
there is a 87 integra brown cover zc for sale at a local junk yard for 200 bucks....now is this a good deal, and would it bolt directly to my d16a6 si transmission? because if it does, i am getting it...!!
You want the black top ZC, assuming you have a 88-91 civic. It has electronic advance.
If you have an 84-87 civic then you will probably want a brown top ZC.
Doing it this way just makes it easier, but if you want you can do whatever you want.
Old Feb 5, 2003 | 04:26 PM
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o.k i have a 90 si, damn i wish thaey had a black top zc for sale, but i knew it was to good to be true...damn it..
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