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89shithatch 07-11-2006 01:27 AM

y8 head swap questions
 
I took the y8 head off today, and will be putting it on my a6 bottom end. (mini me swap) Heres a couple questions i got.

Could i use the y8 intake manifold with the y8 head on the a6 bottom withjout switching to obd0?
For activating vtec, i can use a buddy club vtec controller, correct?
If you guys coule help i would appreciate it. THanks

Tom-Guy 07-11-2006 10:21 AM

Re: y8 head swap questions
 
You don't ever switch to OBD0 to control VTEC, what have you been smoking?

z1guy 07-11-2006 10:29 AM

Re: y8 head swap questions
 
just note that the cam timing will be off unless you know the correction method, and the head bolt nearest to the vtec soleniod is differant than the rest.

89shithatch 07-11-2006 11:59 AM

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what is the correction method?

89shithatch 07-11-2006 12:00 PM

Re: y8 head swap questions
 
Ans i am not switching to obdo. I have an a6 motor in my car and have a spare y8 motor. So in essanse all i am doing is the mini me swap.

juli0_bustamante 07-11-2006 09:34 PM

Re: y8 head swap questions
 

Originally Posted by 89shithatch
what is the correction method?

yes please elaborate on this. do you mean that the up mark on cam sprocket isnt where it shuold be set using a A6 block? how bad will the timing be off?

z1guy 07-11-2006 09:38 PM

Re: y8 head swap questions
 

Originally Posted by 89shithatch
what is the correction method?

you have more post then me so im gonna say search, i have talked about it on here like 10 times in the last week.

Tom-Guy 07-11-2006 10:14 PM

Re: y8 head swap questions
 
It's the same thing that causes half the Y8 timing homosexuality with OBD1 conversions... I talk about it in every fourthnon GD post I make, so expect no help from me either.

89shithatch 07-12-2006 12:09 AM

Re: y8 head swap questions
 
Hey pry just means that you have to set the timing. If i have learned the info correcty, any d series bottom will mate with any d head with the same timing.

z1guy 07-12-2006 12:28 AM

Re: y8 head swap questions
 

Originally Posted by 89shithatch
Hey pry just means that you have to set the timing. If i have learned the info correcty, any d series bottom will mate with any d head with the same timing.

sure

Tom-Guy 07-12-2006 12:39 AM

Re: y8 head swap questions
 
Have fun with that.

z1guy 07-12-2006 12:50 AM

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and all the head bolts are the same too.

Tom-Guy 07-12-2006 01:01 AM

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Bite me :7

z1guy 07-12-2006 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Bite me :7

didnt know you like that. j/k, i wasnt talking you that time.

89shithatch 07-12-2006 05:19 PM

Re: y8 head swap questions
 
yea, i looked at the head bolts and all look the same. I did take them out and label them just in case. But all look the same. btw, do the y8 head bolts get torqued the same as the a6 head bolts?

HMTguy 07-12-2006 05:25 PM

Re: y8 head swap questions
 
Open up a shop manual and find out.

89shithatch 07-12-2006 06:13 PM

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is there any civic manuals for download online for the y8 motor?

z1guy 07-12-2006 06:17 PM

Re: y8 head swap questions
 
man, you are about to be in a world of hurt if you attempt to work on your car. you need to get all the info before you start, the head bolts arent all the same when doing this swap. good luck. O0

89shithatch 07-12-2006 06:32 PM

Re: y8 head swap questions
 
should i use the a6 head bolts or the y8 head bolts when putting my y8 head on the a6 block?

HMTguy 07-12-2006 06:39 PM

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Use the y6 bolts

Slo_crx1 07-12-2006 06:43 PM

Re: y8 head swap questions
 
Ask the magic 8 ball...it has all the answers you need ;D

89shithatch 07-12-2006 07:18 PM

Re: y8 head swap questions
 
i got most of the info on honda tech and some other sites. Timing wont be too bad, just gotta get the damn crank pullry off. I just have to align cam gear at tdc with the crank pully at tdc and tension it. As for the head bolts i am still unsure of. I dont know if i should use the a6 bolts or the y8 ones. The y8 fpr also will on fit on my a6 intake. So if i cannot find a z6 one to use i will pry end up swapping the y8 intake manifold. (can you even use z6 fpr's with y8 heads?)

HMTguy 07-12-2006 07:33 PM

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When you say "pry" instead of probably you are a dumb ----. But you probably were a long time ago.

89shithatch 07-12-2006 07:42 PM

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sorry dude, i dont cry like most of the n00bs on here when people talk ----. Im here for learning :6

HMTguy 07-12-2006 07:56 PM

Re: y8 head swap questions
 
Sorry I meant use the a8 bolts

SpankedYA! 07-12-2006 07:58 PM

Re: y8 head swap questions
 
Y8 bolts. done.

z1guy 07-12-2006 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CSaddict
Y8 bolts. done.

if you say so ::)

SpankedYA! 07-12-2006 09:23 PM

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Tom-Guy 07-12-2006 11:34 PM

Re: y8 head swap questions
 
No, he says:


Originally Posted by CSaddict
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z1guy 07-13-2006 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
No, he says:


wonder why???

Tom-Guy 07-13-2006 09:11 AM

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z1guy 07-13-2006 10:36 AM

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Tom-Guy 07-13-2006 10:37 AM

Re: y8 head swap questions
 
I'm sorry, I meant to say:

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TunerToys 07-13-2006 10:33 PM

Re: y8 head swap questions
 

Originally Posted by 89shithatch
I took the y8 head off today, and will be putting it on my a6 bottom end. (mini me swap) Heres a couple questions i got.

Could i use the y8 intake manifold with the y8 head on the a6 bottom withjout switching to obd0?
For activating vtec, i can use a buddy club vtec controller, correct?
If you guys coule help i would appreciate it. THanks

We just finished up one of these.

The Y8 head will fit your A6 Block.
- Remember to pull the oil jet.
- Have both sets of head bolts handy, and check thread engagement to determine which to use. They are different.
- Your OBD0 distributor will work fine with the Y8 Head.
- We used the stock A6 manifold on the Y8 head, just because it was already set up with the car and we didn't have to futz with sensors and cable fitment.

You can use many different things to activate VTEC
- VTEC controller
- RPM switch
- TurboEdit with the A/C Hack (You loose A/C to gain VTEC control)

Other notes.
- Have both of your water outlets handy.
- Consider using ARP studs.
- Use the Z6 timing belt (I think)
- Use an adjustable cam gear to correct the cam angle.


When VTEC activates on a MiniMe, the world pretty much stays the same.

Welcome Noob, Hope that helps.

Craig


z1guy 07-13-2006 10:39 PM

Re: y8 head swap questions
 
craig, to add to the head stud bolt thing, since im in a nice mood. when using 88-95 block and 96+ head all bolts are used for that block except the one nearest the vtec solenoid, that one has to be a 96+ bolt or 88-95 bolt w/ an extra washer.

89shithatch 07-14-2006 12:11 AM

Re: y8 head swap questions
 
hell yea nignogs, thats the good ----. thanks.
p.s.
what about the fpr, becuase the y8 one dont bolt up to the a6 intake mani.
also, why do i need to check for engagement? You mean to make sure the threads arent tweaked. (head studs)

89shithatch 07-14-2006 12:20 AM

Re: y8 head swap questions
 

Originally Posted by z1guy
craig, to add to the head stud bolt thing, since im in a nice mood. when using 88-95 block and 96+ head all bolts are used for that block except the one nearest the vtec solenoid, that one has to be a 96+ bolt or 88-95 bolt w/ an extra washer.

so if you are using all head bolts from a 96 plus motor. you are good.

z1guy 07-14-2006 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 89shithatch
so if you are using all head bolts from a 96 plus motor. you are good.

no the 96+ bolts are shorter, thus the reason you need to use 1 of them in that far corner. like i have said, use 9 88-95 studs/bolts and 1 96+ bolt closest to the vtec solenoid. or all 88-95 bolts and a washer on the one closest to the solenoid.


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