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biscuit 07-12-2008 09:42 PM

VR6 Piece of Shit
 
I knew I shouldn't have bought this Jetta....

I've got an idling problem with a 2000 Jetta VR6. The engine starts and runs for maybe a minute and then stalls. It doesn't stutter, it just shuts off. After it stalls I can't get it started for about 5 minutes. I've only had this car for about 4 months and I've already had to replace a battery, power steering pump and belt tensioner. I think I'm going to drive it over a cliff. :X :X :X I have no check engine lights. There is some kind of noise coming from the back of the engine when the car is shut off. I didn't notice this before i had this problem. Could have been there before i had this problem.

Any help would be great.

Souron 07-13-2008 04:54 PM

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pm pistol, a friend of his just did a whole bunch of work on his vr6, he can probly give you an idea of whats going on

Racintweek 07-14-2008 01:33 PM

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it has a variable intake system like a GSR, if it got stuck closed it wouldint set a CEL and would block air from entering your engine causing the stalling
but the flapper is at the front of the intake mani , may be you are hering the noise come out of the intake/TB??

Hitchhikkr 07-14-2008 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by biscuit
I knew I shouldn't have bought this Jetta....

I've got an idling problem with a 2000 Jetta VR6. The engine starts and runs for maybe a minute and then stalls. It doesn't stutter, it just shuts off. After it stalls I can't get it started for about 5 minutes. I've only had this car for about 4 months and I've already had to replace a battery, power steering pump and belt tensioner. I think I'm going to drive it over a cliff. :X :X :X I have no check engine lights. There is some kind of noise coming from the back of the engine when the car is shut off. I didn't notice this before i had this problem. Could have been there before i had this problem.

Any help would be great.

The high pitched hum you hear is the throttle body, thats normal. Since you have no mil its not a fuel injection related issue. Duplicate the problem, then check to see if you have fuel at the rail. Kinda sounds like fuel pump is taking a poo. Or something on the pump circuit, relay, etc.

b18. 07-14-2008 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitchhikkr
The high pitched hum you hear is the throttle body, thats normal. Since you have no mil its not a fuel injection related issue. Duplicate the problem, then check to see if you have fuel at the rail. Kinda sounds like fuel pump is taking a poo. Or something on the pump circuit, relay, etc.

MKIV 'Lectronics ftw?

txdohczc 07-14-2008 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wafflesincars
MKIV 'Lectronics FTL?

here i fixed it for you

biscuit 07-14-2008 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Racintweek
it has a variable intake system like a GSR, if it got stuck closed it wouldint set a CEL and would block air from entering your engine causing the stalling
but the flapper is at the front of the intake mani , may be you are hering the noise come out of the intake/TB??


Originally Posted by Hitchhikkr
The high pitched hum you hear is the throttle body, thats normal. Since you have no mil its not a fuel injection related issue. Duplicate the problem, then check to see if you have fuel at the rail. Kinda sounds like fuel pump is taking a poo. Or something on the pump circuit, relay, etc.

Thanks guys that noise is coming from the TB. ;)
I've determined that it is a hot start issue. I can start the car cold and drive it all over the place with no problems. Once I shut it off I can't get it started again. I've been reading some vw forums and I've narrowed it down to one of the following things...
Coolant Temperature Sensor
Crank Sensor
Mass airflow sensor(thanks pistol)
I'm going to replace the Coolant Sensor first because it is the cheapest part. I need to check the plugs on it too. I think I've gone half retarded from reading VW forums. Those kids are paying dealers $160 to replace sensors. :S

b18. 07-15-2008 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by txdohczc
here i fixed it for you

That was the joke, but I guess you made it more poignant.

Hitchhikkr 07-15-2008 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by biscuit
Thanks guys that noise is coming from the TB. ;)
I've determined that it is a hot start issue. I can start the car cold and drive it all over the place with no problems. Once I shut it off I can't get it started again. I've been reading some vw forums and I've narrowed it down to one of the following things...
Coolant Temperature Sensor
Crank Sensor
Mass airflow sensor(thanks pistol)
I'm going to replace the Coolant Sensor first because it is the cheapest part. I need to check the plugs on it too. I think I've gone half retarded from reading VW forums. Those kids are paying dealers $160 to replace sensors. :S

Its not the mass air. If it were it would run like ass all the time, and unplugging it would make the car run better. Wont cause a hot-start problem.

Coolant temp is a good place to start if you want to throw parts at it. $35 isnt too bad.

Hitchhikkr 07-15-2008 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wafflesincars
MKIV 'Lectronics ftw?

Im kinda partial to the MKV myself. Bought the wife an 08' wolfsburg 2.0T. I love it. Unbolted the exhaust and smoked a 05 rsx type-s. Still gets 36mpg avg. Not bad for $20K out the door.

b18. 07-15-2008 07:04 PM

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The 2.0's are solid, the 1.8T seems to have a tendency of vomiting all over itself and suffocating to death.

Hitchhikkr 07-15-2008 07:38 PM

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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention. Using 87 octane. Direct Injection FTMFW!!!

Hitchhikkr 07-16-2008 10:53 AM

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Biscuit, ive been thinking about your problem.

Replace the coolant temp sensor anyway, because if you havent already, you will need to in the future anyway. I dont think thats whats causing your hot-start problem.

I think your fuel pump relay is taking a ----. Its the big black relay that has "409" stamped in the top. Pull it out, and look at the big copper spade contacts. They should be a copperish color, if they are dark brown or look like they have been ------- hot, I can almost promise thats the problem.

seerex 07-16-2008 03:59 PM

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Thats why I would NEVER buy a vw. :P

Hitchhikkr 07-16-2008 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by crxvtec91
Thats why I would NEVER buy a vw. :P

Aw come'on now. Honda has never had main relay problems? :P

b18. 07-16-2008 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitchhikkr
Aw come'on now. Honda has never had main relay problems? :P

That takes literally 2 minutes to change.

shanerv 07-16-2008 05:51 PM

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jumped timing?

biscuit 07-16-2008 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitchhikkr
Biscuit, ive been thinking about your problem.

Replace the coolant temp sensor anyway, because if you havent already, you will need to in the future anyway. I dont think thats whats causing your hot-start problem.

I think your fuel pump relay is taking a ----. Its the big black relay that has "409" stamped in the top. Pull it out, and look at the big copper spade contacts. They should be a copperish color, if they are dark brown or look like they have been ------- hot, I can almost promise thats the problem.

I've been waiting for this weekend to start working on it. I pulled the relay tonight and it doesn't look too good.
Attachment 16360
I'll make sure to replace this first.

biscuit 07-16-2008 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by shanerv
jumped timing?

Timing is fine. How is that transmission working for you?

shanerv 07-16-2008 11:02 PM

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it's working like a pimp. no seriously thanks for the deal make the whole thing come together nicely. so far the car hauls pretty good for just a .42 .48 turbo. in the process of geting a .60 .63. you know anybody with one? also do you have the rear struts and springs off that teg? they in good shape?

Hitchhikkr 07-17-2008 11:51 AM

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Toast. Go get ya one. :6



Originally Posted by wafflesincars
That takes literally 2 minutes to change.

Ya, I keep a spare in the glove box of the crx with a switch african-engineered on it. You'd love it.

biscuit 07-20-2008 11:01 AM

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Advance Auto gave me the wrong relay. >:( Now i have to wait until Tuesday. I changed the fuel filter, put on a new air filter and installed the coolant sensor. We're still getting the same problem. I hope the relay does the trick.


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