very noob question about timeing, be gentle
 

which timeing mark do i shoot for when timeing my D16Z6?

i thought i had my timeing dialed in but i may not... i know its kind of a noob question but i cant decerin which mark it is from the manual i have downloaded

im in my garage right now (i love wireless net ^_^)

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is this for installing timing belt or setting the dizzy timing?
setting the timing is on the middle of three marks. i believe it's red on the z6. 16 degrees.
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for setting timeing... i have 5 marks on my pully, 3 close together and 2 close together about 2 inchs from the others

none of them have any color

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use the middle one on the left set of 3. on the right set of 2, the white one is 0*tdc.
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So just to verify here are the steps:

1992-95 MODELS
1. Start engine and allow to reach normal operating temperature (cooling fan comes on).
2. Pull out the service check connector located behind the right kick panel.
3. Connect a jumper wire between the BRN and GRN/WHT terminals of the connector.
4. Connect a timing light and check timing using the red timing mark.
5. Timing should be:

All engine speed settings may vary 50 rpm above or below the specification.

D15Z1 engine: M/T-16° BTDC (RED) 600 rpm (USA) or 700 rpm (Canada)
D15B8 engine: M/T-12° BTDC (RED) 670 rpm (USA) or 750 rpm (Canada)
D15B7/D16Z6 engine: M/T-16° BTDC (RED) at 670 rpm (USA) or 750 rpm (Canada)
D15B7/D16Z6 engine: A/T-16° BTDC (RED) at 700 rpm (USA) or 750 rpm (Canada)

6. Adjust timing as needed, by turning the distributor housing counterclockwise to retard the timing, clockwise to retard the timing.
7. Turn engine off and remove jumper wire.

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none of the markings are colored... so which one is TDC??

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You're going beyond n00b if you ask again.

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reading ------- pwns you...

THE MARKS ARENT COLORED, THERE ISNT A WHITE ONE

so i ask again, since there not colored, which of the two is TDC

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very helpfull

i got the timeing dialed in (thanks ::)) and im still haveing my same problems

my AFR's wont change no matter what changes i make to the map, at idle its 10 or below and above 2500-3500 it cuts out because its damn near 16

i tried datalogging while running but i cant seem to get that to work right quite yet...

anyone have any ideas? if i cant get this thing figured out soon im just gonna sell it because i cant not have a DD for much longer

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i posted but edited what i said...

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Do you have a CEL?
What is your setup?

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are you using some sort of emulator or just burning chips?

if emulating, are you sure the changes you're making are being uploaded?

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i do have a cel, i ground D4 and got codes 10 and 22.. i have a new sensor for 10, and at the moment i dont really care about 22 since it shouldnt make any diffrence on how the motor runs at idle or cruiseing

my setup is below

D16Z6, stock CR
ported and polished head
eagle rods
vitara pistons
block decked .025
ACL bearings
garret T3/T4 50/63 with HPC coating
PO6 converted to v-tec chipped by xenocron (chips he sent must have got damaged during shipping or something, so i've been trying to make my own map)
RC550 injectors
new adjustable FPR at 45psi for now (old fuel pressure was 60)


i dont have an emulator, i bought a moates burn1 from xeno and some chips from moates and have been trying to sort it out on my own.. i know the maps make it onto the chips because i verify before i even try them in the ecu

i've got my timeing dialed in and verified with a timeing light, about 4 times

any map i make seems to idle around 10.0 and any changes i make dont seem to matter

i've had it driveing for about 3 minutes but it was popping and pretty lean so i stopped, and i cant get it to build boost either anytime i get it semi driveable... but im not as worried about that just yet

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Are you sure your wideband is working right. It could be some crazy voltage deal or a bad sensor.

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im pretty sure its working right, i dont really have a way to test it... i bought it brand new so unless it was faulty from the shop then it should be good to go