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b16als 02-24-2003 03:40 PM

is it true about AEM cold air?
 
I have head that the AEM cold air intake give 10 to 20 hp gain. now i don;t know about that i see the logic in it and i have seen some test results but i don't know weather paying that much just for a AEM cold air or if i could just get one cheaper and still would be about the same but i don't know i gues i will have to see. ;]

redzcstandardhatch 02-24-2003 03:55 PM

Re:is it true about AEM cold air?
 
most AEM style intakes, if they are made properly and have a good filter, will make the exact same amount of power. there is really nothing that special about aem, your mostly paying for the name

TurboEF9 02-24-2003 04:26 PM

Re:is it true about AEM cold air?
 
No, it will NOT give oyu 10 to 20hp gains..

All of those "Bolt this on and get instant HP" are bogus. Except Turbos, Superchargers, and Nitrous.. but even then, they have to work in conjuntion with the other performance mods on your vehicle to obtain thier "peak hp gain".

Most of the time, when you see an HP number posted, and a product claims to give that, chances are, they mean "You could get that if you had a setup with all the other mods that work in conjunction with a this.." Blah blah blah.. it's all about marketing. And marketing pisses me off. >:(

HMT-Admin 02-24-2003 05:13 PM

Re:is it true about AEM cold air?
 
I heard like 40 to the wheels with the aem intake.. hah

nah, nothing special about them, the cheap ebay ones work just as well. The only intake that I could see being slightly better than others is Iceman intakes since they are made out of plastic (less heat) but thats it.

Jeff

MR_T 02-24-2003 05:18 PM

Re:is it true about AEM cold air?
 
I have an 88 crx with minime, matricx full exhaust and header, ecu chip(tuned for vtec) and a home made aem style cia and I make about 130 to the wheels \ i would say the aem really makes more power than most of the intakes out there but only like 5-7 hp,


sean2133 02-24-2003 08:11 PM

Re:is it true about AEM cold air?
 
Import Tuner put an AEM Cold air intake, some headers (can't remember what kind) and an exhaust on a 91 Civic Si and gained like 10 hp with all three. Baseline was about 95, after I/H/E it was 105 I think.

b16als 02-24-2003 08:51 PM

Re:is it true about AEM cold air?
 
yea i seen somthing like that in import turner but i thin it was on a acura they where talking about. they where tweeking the ecu and stuff like that and they added a aem cold air and gained 10hp but i still am not sure weather i want to spen the money on a aem or just somthing like ice man or injen..

J-SMITH69 02-24-2003 10:40 PM

Re:is it true about AEM cold air?
 
cia do make more power, but its not really the acual pipe part of the cia. its the less resrticive filter that does it., if you go buy a k&n cone filter and put it on the end of your plastic stock air pipe, it will do the exact same thing. having a high flow filter and a short intake pipe makes your powerband slightly into the higher rpm ranges too.

TurboEF9 02-25-2003 10:43 AM

Re:is it true about AEM cold air?
 

Originally Posted by random-strike
cia do make more power, but its not really the acual pipe part of the cia. its the less resrticive filter that does it., if you go buy a k&n cone filter and put it on the end of your plastic stock air pipe, it will do the exact same thing. having a high flow filter and a short intake pipe makes your powerband slightly into the higher rpm ranges too.

That's partically correct... The pipe does play a part in the performance. The stock intake pipe is normally ribbed. They do this, not for flex, but to slow the air flow and make turbulance in the intake pipe to quiet it down.

The flow of the smooth pipe increases air speed velocity inside the intake pipe. Which is why they have the mandrel bends on the aftermarket pipes. The problem is, people don't understand that the "high flow filter" actually causes the MOST turbulance. This isn't because it's just sucking in air and doesn't direct the flow. That is why companies make those "in filter bells" that actually direct the air flow as it's being sucked in.

phresh_5 02-25-2003 03:30 PM

Re:is it true about AEM cold air?
 
All these stats of hp gains are usually done on high performance cars. ie Skyline.
I remember seeing a bottle of octane boost that said it will give you 32hp (tested on a Skyline)

J-SMITH69 02-25-2003 08:17 PM

Re:is it true about AEM cold air?
 
yeah thats true but it doesn't make a difference on a 90hp motor. i know for a fact that no one could tell the difference...

MR_DR_PEP 02-25-2003 10:53 PM

Re:is it true about AEM cold air?
 
anyone tried removing the rubber Y boot when you got the car? IT WAS LOUD under full throttle. Turbulance in the intake was one of the causes for this.

Getting the correct size pipe is important as well. I could get more HP from on a d16a6 with a 2.5" pipe, than a 3" pipe. That's been proven. VTEC 1.6 - 1.8 etc would do better with 3" pipe.

But hey, this website ain't here to talk about cold air intakes! Lets talk about turbos! Let's talk about getting 50% to even 120% HP increases!

TurboEF9 02-25-2003 11:27 PM

Re:is it true about AEM cold air?
 
You can apply these same theories to your charge pipes, if you're hardcore. ;)

ProzacOverdose 02-26-2003 02:59 AM

Re:is it true about AEM cold air?
 
haha...thats true....but for those who wants to know. the cold air intake from AEM wasnt created like others. Most...not all but most of aem products have special cone filters that does something called a stacking effect. it trys to give the same effect as that from carbs. but in order for the f/i intakes to do that, they needed at least 3 feet long runners. thats 1 reason why aem made them long. now the air closest to the evap point, which is like 7 inches off the ground, is "supposedly" colder and less dense. thats another reason its closer to the ground. but the size and bends of the tube is to correctly flow the right amount of air through the tubes, within the center, with the least amount of resistance to the flow and velocity break of the air. and lastly, they coat the pipe to keep the air cold(er). and with the 10-15hp gains or so.....let me tell you guys....dont be a magazine racer. just cause it says 10-15hp gain doesnt mean you WILL get the 10-15. but ill say this, i've gotten better numbers from the aem in the mid rpm range then any 3 in off the shelf, wannabe chrome pipes with k&n's. expect1-2 gains...sometimes..even 0......but never 10+. unless its the skyline. ;D

5_LiTeR_EaTeR 02-27-2003 09:07 PM

Re:is it true about AEM cold air?
 
I have a AEM CAI for my car and I felt a slight noticed in Hp gain when I installed it last year. I like it better than the ones on ebay because first, most of the ones on ebay say they are CAI but really are short ram and don't have the extension to the bottom. Second, AEm uses a ceramic coating around their intakes which helps keep in the more dense air from the outside and keep the heat away from inside the engine bay. Not a magazine racer but the new AEM V2 intake added a 17 Hp to a stock 96 civic DX. I think thats pretty impressive for a damn intake.

-Alex

AdrenalineSTR 02-27-2003 09:37 PM

Re:is it true about AEM cold air?
 
What if you drive through a big puddle and the whole filter gets wet and the water runs into your engine?

TurboEF9 02-27-2003 09:41 PM

Re:is it true about AEM cold air?
 
You'll have to install the patented AEM "Air Bypass Valve".. how.. perfect..


MR_DR_PEP 02-27-2003 10:58 PM

Re:is it true about AEM cold air?
 
a little water in the engine isn't bad at all.

BUT IF it goes under water (covered completely), your engine will LOCK... called hydro lock. It destroys the engine

88crxSi 02-28-2003 09:00 AM

Re:is it true about AEM cold air?
 
Quote "A little water won't hurt your engine"

Sure about that? Depends on your definition of "a little" I guess. A single drop wouldnt do a thing, Im sure. But if your idea of a little is a teaspoon then start saving. Water's compression ratio is.. well 0! But the AEM bypass valves DO work. and you DONT have to have an AEM intake to do it.. just cut a section out of your pipe. A metal tube is a metal tube if its the same diameter and both have mandrel bends. Want to do a test. get a straw, start sucking and then dip into a glass of water. Personally, I live with a short ram cuz the colder air gets heated as it passes through your engine bay anyways. If lossing 1 or 2 hp means having a safe engine, then i'll do it.

HMT-Admin 02-28-2003 01:38 PM

Re:is it true about AEM cold air?
 
bah, seriously water doesnt hurt the engine that much man. Back in the day the old v8 guys would do carbon blasts, basically hold the engine at 4000rpms and dump a entire glass of water right down the carb, I couldnt ------- beleive it, but its an old trick to clean all the carbon off. I actually did it to a shitty running d16a6, Sucked it down no problem. (dont get me wrong, I was very freaked out when doing it) but the old techs at my work said they use to do this ---- along time ago..

Jeff

TurboEF9 02-28-2003 02:00 PM

Re:is it true about AEM cold air?
 
Bah.. my old EF9 ran without a headlight, daily driven. Meaning.. in the rain. I sucked up alot of water.. ----, it even felt like it pulled harder on the highway when it was raining. Minus the slip of traction..

http://www.driftkids.com/driftkids.jpg

Completely gone! Open air cone filter right in that space. I had no problems..

88crxSi 03-02-2003 12:24 PM

Re:is it true about AEM cold air?
 
steet legal baby! LOL NOT


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