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ifly87 10-23-2008 04:57 AM

Trans prob: Serious dammage or not?
 
I have 118,000 on this tranny its the stock trans from my car 93 del sol s, (it was on my d15b7, dx trans or w/e you call it) anyway ive got a build z6 in it now and I was doing a nice 20+psi burnout in 1st then 2nd gear, then just let it ride and went for a 3rd gear panty ripper right away, all good right? NO! the next time I accelerate I notice my trans is grinding as I put it in 2nd/3rd/4th gear. It has never done this before but now it does every time unless I double clutch (gay). My question is, it this somthing simple like a bearing or gear slipping out of place? I can take it apart I have before to replace the ISB, but if somthing is worn I'll just stick in the transmission I have that was originally on the d16z6.

Is the transmission (ratio's) any different between the d15b7 and z6? would it be best to keep/rebuild the trans from the b7 or put in the one from the z6?


Hitchhikkr 10-23-2008 10:34 AM

Re: Trans prob: Serious dammage or not?
 
Clutch isnt fully disengaging.

igotnothin 10-23-2008 10:56 AM

Re: Trans prob: Serious dammage or not?
 

Originally Posted by Hitchhikkr
Clutch isnt fully disengaging.

with a hydro trans, how do you adjust that. the line is bled properly, is there any way i can fix this... My trany will shift smooth from 1-2 but 2-3 and 3-4 will grind unless if i let the engine rev down below 2000 rpms...

Dont think its the tranny had a similar issue with my last trans...

Oh and sorry for the thread jack..

Hitchhikkr 10-23-2008 11:08 AM

Re: Trans prob: Serious dammage or not?
 
There are a number of things that can cause it, hub binding on the splines, PP worn out, TB worn, etc. Usually you gotta pull the trans to find out.

9 times out of 10 if its grinding in (almost) every gear, its the clutch, rarely you could have a trans/engine mount fucked up, or shift linkage problems. Obviously check the visual things under the hood first before you go yanking the trans out.

EDIT: I have also seen this on new clutches with discs that are thinner than the factory, and the flywheel was stepped too far.

NIGn0g 10-23-2008 11:13 AM

Re: Trans prob: Serious dammage or not?
 

Originally Posted by D16Y8-Z6

First run was more or less a test pass. I launched way too soft. Im used to preloading and launching on my rev limiter.
Now that Ive got an anti-lag its totally different. I didnt build enough boost and just bogged out of the hole. Hence the 1.999 60 ft.

Second run wasnt much better. I busted my 2nd gear in the burnout box. My own mistake. Ive been told not to shift in the burnout. But I did, and I felt something break.

I launched a bunch better on 2nd run with a 1.741 60 ft, but my 2nd gear locked out for a bit and then I just jammed it in and went from there.

All in all. Im very happy with my MPH for the power im making. A new trans and Ill be out there bringing back 10.99 very soon.

Most of you know my setup but here it is anyway.


I'm not sure it gonna help you, maybe it's not the same problem, but it says what you did wrong ;)

Last time I broke a tranny I was N/A and a shaft wanted to go outside to breath fresh air and to bleed on the street.

lilpooh21186 10-23-2008 11:45 AM

Re: Trans prob: Serious dammage or not?
 
take a peek at the clutch fork mine was bent and eventually cracked fucked my car up try holding the clutch to the floor and rev the car to redline if it moves most likly your shits not disengaging.

seerex 10-23-2008 03:19 PM

Re: Trans prob: Serious dammage or not?
 
Check the slave cyc.

Bone1 10-24-2008 12:45 AM

Re: Trans prob: Serious dammage or not?
 
broken 3-4 shifter fork

happens alot on boosted D series tranny with weak mounts trying to slam 3rd gear.

ifly87 10-24-2008 03:39 PM

Re: Trans prob: Serious dammage or not?
 
thanks for the replies. I've decided to just yank it out and stick in the z6 trans I have laying around, i'll pull this one apart when I get that far. I'm also building another z6 w/ sleeves this time and i'll end up replacing the clutch again if it needs it or not.

Hitchhikkr 10-25-2008 01:33 AM

Re: Trans prob: Serious dammage or not?
 

Originally Posted by Mista Bone
broken 3-4 shifter fork

happens alot on boosted D series tranny with weak mounts trying to slam 3rd gear.

What? He's grinding in 2nd/3rd/4th upshift.


???

Bone1 10-25-2008 02:47 AM

Re: Trans prob: Serious dammage or not?
 

Originally Posted by Hitchhikkr
What? He's grinding in 2nd/3rd/4th upshift.


???

which is EXACTLY why I said 3-4 fork. 3rd and 4th grinds, kinda hard to shift with only 1/2 of the fork still there.

Think about how the motpr unloads from the engine mounts on the shift and what direction the shift rods is going. Your pulling the rod out of the tranny while the bottom of the tranny is rocking forward in the mounts, thus rushing the shift and breaking forks.


Either way the damage IS internal, have to pull it down and apart for a lookie.

Hitchhikkr 10-25-2008 03:00 AM

Re: Trans prob: Serious dammage or not?
 

Originally Posted by Mista Bone
which is EXACTLY why I said 3-4 fork. 3rd and 4th grinds, kinda hard to shift with only 1/2 of the fork still there.

Think about how the motpr unloads from the engine mounts on the shift and what direction the shift rods is going. Your pulling the rod out of the tranny while the bottom of the tranny is rocking forward in the mounts, thus rushing the shift and breaking forks.


Either way the damage IS internal, have to pull it down and apart for a lookie.

OIC, its only breaking HALF the fork. Im thinking about toyotas with their gay-ass aluminum cast forks that completely break off when they let go, ie no shift at all.


ok.

Bone1 10-25-2008 05:43 AM

Re: Trans prob: Serious dammage or not?
 
you can do that too on a 88-95 Civic tranny if you try hard enough!

Mustang/Camaro also suffer the same fate.

ifly87 10-26-2008 05:38 PM

Re: Trans prob: Serious dammage or not?
 
Is there a company or where can I buy straight cut gearsets for these d-series transmissions? or do you sell them bone? before I put in this other trans I'm going to install a lsd also.

Guy-Fast 10-26-2008 05:40 PM

Re: Trans prob: Serious dammage or not?
 
You have some serious bucks to throw at a d?

Hitchhikkr 10-26-2008 11:42 PM

Re: Trans prob: Serious dammage or not?
 

Originally Posted by chris
You have some serious bucks to throw at a d?


Bone1 10-27-2008 02:36 AM

Re: Trans prob: Serious dammage or not?
 
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Originally Posted by ifly87
Is there a company or where can I buy straight cut gearsets for these d-series transmissions? or do you sell them bone? before I put in this other trans I'm going to install a lsd also.

Straight cut gear are not needed, but the price starts about $4k.

This is a high dollar B series 4 speed setup, but money was wasted on the Richmond spool which WILL twist and fail

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Richmond I installed

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Whats happens with traction and power to a Richmond spool, Joe Demaree's H22 powered HB

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Bone1 10-27-2008 02:38 AM

Re: Trans prob: Serious dammage or not?
 

Originally Posted by ifly87
Is there a company or where can I buy straight cut gearsets for these d-series transmissions? or do you sell them bone? before I put in this other trans I'm going to install a lsd also.

Cheaper to go B series tranny.......

Guy-Fast 10-27-2008 04:11 AM

Re: Trans prob: Serious dammage or not?
 
Maybe everyone should go with the cg transmission has it seems to be the winner. Bone your thoughts

Bone1 10-27-2008 04:02 PM

Re: Trans prob: Serious dammage or not?
 
Only if Houseman built it for me, I haven't talked to the crazy canuck in a long time, but I don't need anything that AWESOME.

I know the last one he built the price tag was 15k......

Me, slap in ZC 3-4, long 5th, call it a day.


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