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labatt50 04-20-2005 01:24 AM

Supra has the same as a civic??
 
I was loosing my time on ebay and came across this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33623

Complete Piston & Rod combo!!! These are 74mm (stock D series bore) Toyota Supra Pistons and B16A rods. This combo will allow you to pump out over 18 lbs of boost on the stock block! These were never installed in my motor because I never had the time. I am also including 2 extra pistons, and the rings. 4 of the pistons are already mounted on the rods with the wristpins already installed. This is the cheapest, easiest way to get more safe boost out of your Civic. The only reason I'm selling it is because I am parting out my Civic


Well, i wonder if supra pistons are better than oem but in another way if you blow one you could always take another one since its from a 6 cyl engine...

Cray91 04-20-2005 01:46 AM

Re: Supra has the same as a civic??
 
I would look into it more.

Gotta love this informative pic:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...0/f46b6fe5.jpg

Reddy 04-20-2005 07:24 AM

Re: Supra has the same as a civic??
 
yeah Supra pistons is an oldschool trick

steelcityhonda 04-20-2005 08:43 AM

Re: Supra has the same as a civic??
 
Never heard of turbopanda on HT have you? b16 rods with supra pistons combo.

stillnoturbo 04-20-2005 09:03 AM

Re: Supra has the same as a civic??
 
THis would be for a b16 setup correct?

steelcityhonda 04-20-2005 09:04 AM

Re: Supra has the same as a civic??
 
No, dseries. b16 is 81mm bore

Reddy 04-20-2005 09:11 AM

Re: Supra has the same as a civic??
 

Originally Posted by stillnoturbo
THis would be for a b16 setup correct?


Its a low budget D setup using B rods cause they're stronger

stillnoturbo 04-20-2005 09:28 AM

Re: Supra has the same as a civic??
 
I "heard" of the setup but never really knew what engine it was for. You learn something new everyday. What kind of CR does it put you at? Complete bolt in or any machine work need?

SkunT 04-20-2005 09:40 AM

Re: Supra has the same as a civic??
 

Originally Posted by stillnoturbo
I "heard" of the setup but never really knew what engine it was for. You learn something new everyday. What kind of CR does it put you at? Complete bolt in or any machine work need?

notching the block is involved i believe.
www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=691223
www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=593226
www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=137627

koreanwilcox 04-20-2005 10:43 AM

Re: Supra has the same as a civic??
 

Originally Posted by junkyard racer

Originally Posted by stillnoturbo
I "heard" of the setup but never really knew what engine it was for. You learn something new everyday. What kind of CR does it put you at? Complete bolt in or any machine work need?

notching the block is involved i believe.
www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=691223
www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=593226
www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=137627

Hahaha.... WTF?

Good information! ;D

P.S. I'm using Vitara pistons in my setup, which are cast, not forged like FJT stated in that thread...

whiterice 04-20-2005 10:49 AM

Re: Supra has the same as a civic??
 
The pistons are forged from a 1GGTE not available in the states.
Turbopanda can get them cuz he's in thailand.

stillnoturbo 04-20-2005 11:08 AM

Re: Supra has the same as a civic??
 
Curses I was just gonna ask about if the pistons being available here. :-\ Did anyone notice the shipping charges on the pistons/rods package from turbopanda? 95 bucks!!! Damn :-[ My Initial D dvd's never cost that much when there shipped from Hong Kong :P.

Racintweek 04-20-2005 12:44 PM

Re: Supra has the same as a civic??
 

Originally Posted by junkyard racer

Originally Posted by stillnoturbo
I "heard" of the setup but never really knew what engine it was for. You learn something new everyday. What kind of CR does it put you at? Complete bolt in or any machine work need?

notching the block is involved i believe.
www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=691223
www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=593226
www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=137627

YOU FUCKER......GOD DOMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Semnos 04-20-2005 04:12 PM

Re: Supra has the same as a civic??
 
Weight is an issue with shipping things overseas fast.. :P

Ravage70 04-20-2005 05:20 PM

Re: Supra has the same as a civic??
 
btw d bores are 75 mm stock

juli0_bustamante 04-20-2005 11:25 PM

Re: Supra has the same as a civic??
 
have you guys forgotten somethin????????????????????FRANK IS GOING TO JAPAN....therefore he could probably get them for us low budget numbnuts...

so the B series rods with the Supra pistons..what do you have to do to the rods to make them fit? do you have to rebush them like when you do the LS rod deal? do you just slap the pistons on and thats it?

this sounds too good to be true...but then again its pretty cool!

stillnoturbo 04-21-2005 09:20 AM

Re: Supra has the same as a civic??
 
You have to notch your block since the b16 rods are thicker :-\ But besides that it's just a swap and you can use b16 rod bearing or d16 and both work. No machine work on the rods like a LS rod swap. Just the hard part is getting the pistons.

G2turbo_terror 04-21-2005 02:37 PM

Re: Supra has the same as a civic??
 
Not enough research going on here.
I was interested in using these a couple years back but I kept my notes;
Your compression is gonna be very very low, like 7-8 all depending on what engine you are using. Find out the piston dish,ect and use a compression calculator to find out for your engine.
There is some machine work involved, the top of the rod is machined, the bottom is left alone.
The block does need to be notched!
Turbopanda was using pistons from a toyota 1g-gte, which never made it near north america.




FooK 04-21-2005 10:08 PM

Re: Supra has the same as a civic??
 

Originally Posted by ej1 wilcox
Hahaha.... WTF?

Good information! ;D

P.S. I'm using Vitara pistons in my setup, which are cast, not forged like FJT stated in that thread...

oh no you're using vitaras? hmm now I kinda wonder how my car would hold up against yours. those things lower comp way too much.

cingham 04-22-2005 12:51 AM

Re: Supra has the same as a civic??
 

Originally Posted by steelcityhonda
Never heard of turbopanda on HT have you? b16 rods with supra pistons combo.

man that name takes me back.

shanerv 04-22-2005 02:39 PM

Re: Supra has the same as a civic??
 
yeah thats been old known info for a while... you can run factory bore supra pistons in your Dseries for boost. Something else amazing about the 2jz is that the exhaust ports on the head are smaller than that of the SOHC Dseries!

koreanwilcox 04-22-2005 04:05 PM

Re: Supra has the same as a civic??
 

Originally Posted by FooK

Originally Posted by ej1 wilcox
Hahaha.... WTF?

Good information! ;D

P.S. I'm using Vitara pistons in my setup, which are cast, not forged like FJT stated in that thread...

oh no you're using vitaras? hmm now I kinda wonder how my car would hold up against yours. those things lower comp way too much.

Well, they aren't in my car yet... they are sitting in my garage, and have been for almost a year now...

I picked them up last year for cheap and figure I'll throw them in some time within the next year or so if I need to... If and when I put them in, my plan is to do some scat rods as well, and turn the boost up to 1bar daily, I think that would be fun... I'm not too worried about the 8.5:1 or whatever compression, I'll just have them take some meat off the block when they do the rest of the machine work, you don't need to take that much off to end up with 9:1, which is about where I would want to be...

nonvtec 04-22-2005 04:06 PM

Re: Supra has the same as a civic??
 
The rods do have to be re-bushed. Why do you have to notch the block for b16 rods but not ls rods?

84 Abram 04-24-2005 02:19 PM

Re: Supra has the same as a civic??
 
so do the d series rods work with the supra pistons? just not as strong right??

nonvtec 04-24-2005 03:20 PM

Re: Supra has the same as a civic??
 

Originally Posted by 84 Abram
so do the d series rods work with the supra pistons? just not as strong right??

No, D16 rods would be too long, and D series rods suck even worse than D series pistons so, that would be super dumb,


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