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Anubis_4_99 05-31-2006 08:38 PM

stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 
i stripped a bolt on the dizzy, a nut on the oil pickup, and somewhere else but i forgot where.. anyone have any tips for gettin em out with a bare ------ minimum of tools? i got random sockets layin around the garage.. gettin a new set tomorrow.. any other reccomended buys for semi cheap while im at it?

btw what gaskets are needed to replace

i bought a water and oil pump, those came with gaskets.. so all i should need is a HG, intake, exhaust, oil pickup and ????

thanks for the input.. pics will be up in a seperate thread later with progress on my first honda build ;D

FooK 05-31-2006 08:44 PM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 
oil pickup doesn't have a gasket. there isnt much danger in the oil leaking into the oil.

the stripped nut is no biggie, spin the stud out and replace it. the dizzy bolt...if its the top one you can replace the cam cap. otherwise run 2 dizzy bolts no big deal.

Anubis_4_99 05-31-2006 08:47 PM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 

Originally Posted by FooK
oil pickup doesn't have a gasket. there isnt much danger in the oil leaking into the oil.

the stripped nut is no biggie, spin the stud out and replace it. the dizzy bolt...if its the top one you can replace the cam cap. otherwise run 2 dizzy bolts no big deal.

wasnt sure if it did or not to help the oil stay in the pickup

its not the top, its the one near the front of the head.. im swapping the dizzy to another head so i kinda need to get it off

how can i can the stud out? vice grips?

FooK 05-31-2006 08:51 PM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 

Originally Posted by Anubis_4_99
wasnt sure if it did or not to help the oil stay in the pickup

its not the top, its the one near the front of the head.. im swapping the dizzy to another head so i kinda need to get it off

how can i can the stud out? vice grips?

wait, did you strip the hole for the dizzy or round the head of the bolt?

vise grips own those problems.

Anubis_4_99 05-31-2006 08:52 PM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 
rounded the head of the bolt as well as the nut on the pickup

FooK 05-31-2006 08:53 PM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 

Originally Posted by Anubis_4_99
rounded the head of the bolt as well as the nut on the pickup

get some vise grips and get those fuckers clamped on tight, they'll come off.

Anubis_4_99 05-31-2006 08:56 PM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 
sounds good :)

i also need to change the cam gear over.. is there any way to line it up properly so my timeing wont be off or is there a groove for it to fit in? i havent gotten quite that far yet, my head is still at the machine shop

FooK 05-31-2006 09:38 PM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 

Originally Posted by Anubis_4_99
sounds good :)

i also need to change the cam gear over.. is there any way to line it up properly so my timeing wont be off or is there a groove for it to fit in? i havent gotten quite that far yet, my head is still at the machine shop

download or buy a manual and carefully follow the step by step for lining up cam and crank for installing the timing belt.

z1guy 05-31-2006 09:43 PM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 
well, the oil pickup has an oring that should be replaced. if it goes bad the pump will suck air instead of oil. also, the cam gear, as long as its going back on the same style head cam etc. it wont need lined up. set the timing marks if there is not belt on it, and put the gear on aligning it w/ the key *only 1 way it can go on*.

FooK 05-31-2006 09:45 PM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 

Originally Posted by z1guy
well, the oil pickup has an oring that should be replaced. if it goes bad the pump will suck air instead of oil. also, the cam gear, as long as its going back on the same style head cam etc. it wont need lined up. set the timing marks if there is not belt on it, and put the gear on aligning it w/ the key *only 1 way it can go on*.

yeah, o-ring....but not a gasket. i shoulda said that.

Anubis_4_99 05-31-2006 09:47 PM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 

Originally Posted by z1guy
well, the oil pickup has an oring that should be replaced. if it goes bad the pump will suck air instead of oil. also, the cam gear, as long as its going back on the same style head cam etc. it wont need lined up. set the timing marks if there is not belt on it, and put the gear on aligning it w/ the key *only 1 way it can go on*.

exactly what i wanted to know, thanks for the info!

i have a downloaded manual somewhere but i have to find it first.. i'll worry about finding it after the tear down, got pretty far in just three hours considering its my first one and i took several breaks since it was almost 100 degrees :l

sohcpwr 05-31-2006 10:54 PM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 
my z6 had a gasket that went between the oil pickup and the oil pump. I didnt replace it the first time i rebuilt the engine and oil pressure was pretty low. Gauge read 0 at idle but the light didnt come on.

Anubis_4_99 05-31-2006 11:00 PM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 

Originally Posted by sohcpwr
my z6 had a gasket that went between the oil pickup and the oil pump. I didnt replace it the first time i rebuilt the engine and oil pressure was pretty low. Gauge read 0 at idle but the light didnt come on.

0 isnt an option for me :l it read 15 at idle before it blew so im hopeing to stay around there after the rebuild

FooK 05-31-2006 11:01 PM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 

Originally Posted by sohcpwr
my z6 had a gasket that went between the oil pickup and the oil pump. I didnt replace it the first time i rebuilt the engine and oil pressure was pretty low. Gauge read 0 at idle but the light didnt come on.

it could vary from motor to motor. The LS I am rebuilding right now just had an o-ring, as did the donor block that i tore down for internals.

sohcpwr 05-31-2006 11:11 PM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 
it wasnt really an option for me either.... i think it may be why i had a little spun bearing carnage after two months or so. With the new pickup AND gasket, i have 10psi at idle.

Ravage70 06-01-2006 12:43 AM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 
10psi oil pressure at idle is pretty crappy

W O T 06-01-2006 01:28 AM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 
Yeah ---- I get almost 65psi on cold startup and 40 or so when fully warmed up

I also didnt use a gasket on the oil pickup, just made it very clean

Stripped bolts arent ----, put them vice grips on tight! dont be a vagina

Oh and get a good set of sockets, if your disassembling something and you dont have the right socket, DONT ------- TRY IT, get the right socket

Anubis_4_99 06-01-2006 02:28 AM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 

Originally Posted by W O T
Yeah ---- I get almost 65psi on cold startup and 40 or so when fully warmed up

I also didnt use a gasket on the oil pickup, just made it very clean

Stripped bolts arent ----, put them vice grips on tight! dont be a vagina

Oh and get a good set of sockets, if your disassembling something and you dont have the right socket, DONT ------- TRY IT, get the right socket

im getting a full set of sockets and wrench's and a few other things

if you wanna talk cold then i see the same numbers.. i have no doubt my pump may have been weak though and i was seeing shitty numbers warmed up

LSD Motorsports 06-01-2006 02:41 AM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 
I didnt read the rest of the thread but you have a few options,
1) soak the $hit out of the bolt with wd40 or another nut buster, then get some good vice grips, "hulk up" and turn green and give it your best clamp.
2) Weld the closest fitting socket on real well and then put the ratchet on there and break it lose.
3) get a bolt remover kit from pep boys and follow the directions.
4) get a drill or grinder and go to town on whatever if left of the bolt.

good luck

Anubis_4_99 06-01-2006 02:48 AM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 

Originally Posted by LSD Motorsports
I didnt read the rest of the thread but you have a few options,
1) soak the $hit out of the bolt with wd40 or another nut buster, then get some good vice grips, "hulk up" and turn green and give it your best clamp.
2) Weld the closest fitting socket on real well and then put the ratchet on there and break it lose.
3) get a bolt remover kit from pep boys and follow the directions.
4) get a drill or grinder and go to town on whatever if left of the bolt.

good luck

dont have a welder so number 2 is out
i live in nebraska where im pretty sure they've never heard of pep boys so im pretty sure thats out, lol
and i've been banned from drills since i drilled a quarter of an inch into my thumb.. and most other power tools as well.. i also stabbed my hand with sicors (butchered that word...)

lol thanks for the tips though i appriate it, im just gonna go with number 1 and hopefully not rupture a nut pryin them off

LSD Motorsports 06-01-2006 03:22 AM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 

Originally Posted by Anubis_4_99
dont have a welder so number 2 is out
i live in nebraska where im pretty sure they've never heard of pep boys so im pretty sure thats out, lol
and i've been banned from drills since i drilled a quarter of an inch into my thumb.. and most other power tools as well.. i also stabbed my hand with sicors (butchered that word...)

lol thanks for the tips though i appriate it, im just gonna go with number 1 and hopefully not rupture a nut pryin them off

let us know if you lose a hand on this one ;)

Anubis_4_99 06-01-2006 01:32 PM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 
well i went tool hunting and ended up spending $400 :l i need to stay out of stores if i want this damn build done... lol, i'll post up pics in a few ;D i got a craftsmen bolt out set for the stripped nuts and bolts which should work better then the vice grips.. but i can always resort back to them if needed :y

FooK 06-01-2006 11:41 PM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 
I lied. As I assembled my LS block tonight I noticed that the oil pickup has a gasket on it, woopsie.

Anubis_4_99 06-01-2006 11:44 PM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 
yeah i noticed that the goober who put this motor together last time used permatex gasket maker for almost every ------- part on this motor minus the HG

im disgustid :l

got the bolts out though... now i stripped a bolt on the flywheel and cant get the bolt out kit to grab.. any ideas? if i cant figure it out by tomorrow i'll just have the machine shop do it

whiterice 06-01-2006 11:46 PM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 
  • if the vise grips keep slipping, you can use a file and make 2 flat spots on the bolt.
  • craftman as well as others have a socket with teeth that dig into the bolt head with you turn left.

Anubis_4_99 06-01-2006 11:53 PM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 

Originally Posted by whiterice
  • if the vise grips keep slipping, you can use a file and make 2 flat spots on the bolt.
  • craftman as well as others have a socket with teeth that dig into the bolt head with you turn left.

its called a bolt out set, $40 for both sets which i bought.. the bolt on the flywheel is being a bitch and i cant grip it with them.. i completely forgot about grinding into it :1

Zeniceguycrx 06-02-2006 12:03 AM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 
hey man if u need anymore bolts let me know cuz i gots them

Anubis_4_99 06-02-2006 12:10 AM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 

Originally Posted by Zeniceguycrx
hey man if u need anymore bolts let me know cuz i gots them

need one for the flywheel and one for the oil pickup if you got em, for a Z6 if that matters

also i think the bolt ya sent for the belt was the wrong one but its cool, i'll get a pic of the one i need and throw another few bucks your way for it if you have it, thanks for shippin it so fast

Zeniceguycrx 06-02-2006 12:13 AM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 
no prob hook me up with a pic and 5bucks and i will send u the right seatbelt bolt/flywheel bolt/ and the oul pickup bolt, dont realy want money for the bolts just the shipping, u see im in canada

Anubis_4_99 06-02-2006 12:22 AM

Re: stripped bolts during tear down, FUCK
 

Originally Posted by Zeniceguycrx
no prob hook me up with a pic and 5bucks and i will send u the right seatbelt bolt/flywheel bolt/ and the oul pickup bolt, dont realy want money for the bolts just the shipping, u see im in canada

thanks man, i'll send a pic tomorrow after i drop my block off, thanks again ;D

Zeniceguycrx 06-02-2006 12:26 AM

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I might be a ricer but I still got a heart


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