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turborex89 11-18-2007 06:25 PM

so i put the head back on with out using the !!!!!!!
 
ok so heres the story i was going to put the d16z6 head on my d15b2 well then i changed my mind and went back to stock well i toke out the oil squirter for the head thats in the block and i forgot all about it do i realy need it ? heres a pic of what im talking about

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9252/oiljetyf4.jpg

Guy-Fast 11-18-2007 06:35 PM

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if you dont like oil its fine

turborex89 11-18-2007 06:52 PM

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great that was on costly f*ck up on my part new head studs and another new head gasket oh goody wish i wouldn't have just ordered a f*ck load of ---- i dont realy need off ebay last night :-X

Guy-Fast 11-18-2007 07:07 PM

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you can re use that hg and headbolts. Reusing headbolts is fine.my old zc I reused the same headbolts atleast 5 times motor ran perect for 5+years like that

turborex89 11-18-2007 09:40 PM

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i used coper spray gasket on the head gasket can i still reuse it ?

Guy-Fast 11-18-2007 10:04 PM

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yes its fine just torquing it down isnt doing anything

Zeniceguycrx 11-18-2007 11:24 PM

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the spray will make it coome off easyer
everything is cool except for not having that in there

without restriction there is no preasure

88dx 11-18-2007 11:30 PM

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id buy a new headgasket. for $20 it isnt worth taking a chance on it not sealing good.

turborex89 11-19-2007 12:23 AM

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ok i also tourqed my head bolts to 70 ft lbs will they still be cool

Ravage70 11-19-2007 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by turborex89
ok i also tourqed my head bolts to 70 ft lbs will they still be cool

you went over why?

joebowlr21 11-19-2007 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravage70
you went over why?

he was compensating for the lack of oil squiters.....duh O0

b18. 11-19-2007 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by turborex89
ok i also tourqed my head bolts to 70 ft lbs will they still be cool

No, bad noob

Metal studs need to expand, there's a specified torque for a reason, besides you have to do it in increments to avoid uneven deck seating/ tension on the head. You did do that right? Then thereafter torqued the final sequence to 70ft lbs, correct?

Do it the right way the first time, then rape it knowing that you did everything right.

turborex89 11-19-2007 03:58 AM

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yeah i turqed them in order and i went form 20lbs to 40lbs to 70

turborex89 11-19-2007 02:11 PM

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i think a drop or to of oil got on head gasket when i turqed thenm down will that hurt it any ?

b18. 11-19-2007 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by turborex89
i think a drop or to of oil got on head gasket when i turqed thenm down will that hurt it any ?

Oil? hmmm it shouldn't, possibly hotspots? I really am not sure about that one.

I know that the final torque spec on the y8 is recommended 54ft/lb, and the chilton's outlined four steps in tightening the head, but I've heard people doing it in two.

D16Z6: *Tighten the cylinder head bolts in two steps*
1st step - 30 N.m (3.0 kg-m, 22 lb-ft)
2nd step - 73 N.m (7.3 kg-m, 53 lb-ft)

Yea man 70ft/lb is too much. Could possibly have distended the gasket if you have metal + composite.

89shithatch 11-21-2007 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chris
yes its fine just torquing it down isnt doing anything

if you want to get technical about it, even with just the studs in and the head torqued the metal in the gasket will compress causing a seal. removing that seal "MAY" cause a weaker seal if the same headgasket is reused. honestly i would just throw a new one on to be safe. i am sure you dont want to go through all the trouble and have to take the head off for a 3rd time.

icarusdown 11-26-2007 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by chris
you can re use that hg and headbolts. Reusing headbolts is fine.my old zc I reused the same headbolts atleast 5 times motor ran perect for 5+years like that

true.

I had no probs when I took a used y8 3-layer metal headgasket and stripped it down to 1-layer. reused it several times after that even! :8


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