to sleeve or not to sleeve
 

i have b18b and gsr head and im turboing but im short and i dont intend to cut any corners but my machine shop and a couple other people told me they dont think i need to sleeve the block i already got pistons and im getting rods
let me know your thoughts i had planned on sleeving but if i could save 1500 bucks id be happy

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that block will handle more then you will push it.

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https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...?topic=36739.0




fill your block

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so fill my block and call it good really i was comtemplateing that i already read it
thanks for info

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how much power do you want?

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yea ask hotrex how well that worked out for him :6

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works sweet if done right and i have pushed it to 18 psi on a f22b1

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my goal was 300 to 400 whp

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In reality if you have someone tune your car right your fine. Tune up the boost use race gas.



The key there is someone who does mostly Hondas with setting up your ecu.

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Stock sleeves FTW. I've never seen block filling do anything one way or the other.

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300 to 400 hp without sleeves you will be fine( with a good tune ). If you are going to sleeve it you dont need to spend $1500. It only cost me $1100 shipped to get my block done by "Benson Racing", One of the best machinist in the world. Golden Eagle is a goog company too. I dont even think it cost a $1000 shipped. You can also buy a Golden Eagle sleeved LS block on lightning motorsports.com for $900 plus like $25 for shipping, you get to choose your bore size 81mm 85mm.

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+1

but didn't hotsex's filled block crack? seems more like a fad to me than a solid method of cylinder reinforcement.

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Tune schmune... fuel + conservative timing and give her hell.

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dont sleeve it. just get a really good tune. and quality parts work wonders. dont go cheap unless its a quality part.

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Fixed it for ya ;)

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Hotrex's B16 was bad gas, guys. If you want to crack on him about anything crack on him for blowing three engines in one month, with the final engine/setup going up in flames.

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Word that motor in a track car running race gas would still be running to this day most likely. Hotrex didnt even build the motor he had a machine shop build it. Oh and Chris Harris tuned the car so it was done right has Chris is OG and does the stuff daily. People who do this stuff daily and are still in business are for a reason they dont ---- UP



Beau aka one of the guys who started this site ran 10's on a filled b16a block and was around the 500 whp range. He is the guy who got everyone into it which shows how few people have been around this site for awhile


My mentor was running low 10's on a blockguard does that mean they work not really neither does it say it didnt. To many options in builds etc

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i would say block guard or fill it.. its cheap insurance? you're looking at 100 either way.

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Sleeves split in the middle of the bore, jarebear667, what is a blockguard at the very top going to do?

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block posting ?

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haha nothing at all ------- fill it. i wouldn dump that money in a sleeved block if you dont plan on goin over the 400 mark.

JD be my dad.

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Pushing a pin into a balloon makes it pop. There's a reason why everyone isn't doing that.


Sleeved blocks are pretty cheap these days, I got mine for $400 with crank and Eagles. Keep your ear to the ground, son, if you want to be my son. :P

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Race gas+stock sleeves FTW 8)

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i picked up my h22( i know you hate em jd haha) darton sleeved block for a nice price, i should have less than 2500 into my bottom end, wiseco's crowers balance shaft removal bearings and gaskets, im waiting for the block to be done getting assembled, i have my nut cup on in preparation.. :(

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Nothing wrong getting a block built by a shop more people ---- up shortblocks more than anything.

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well if you want to be able to trust it, i'll be the fisrt to say i dont have the knowledge to do it. or experience. nor tools..

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thanks for all the input but i dont want to run on race gas i want to run on 92 bp or 91 shell which is better
but i cant afford race gas
i guess i will fill the block and go with it

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take your time dont cut corners