power steering delete
I am removing my power steering pump and want to build my own kit got the lines and reseroir, I don't wanna buy a kit thats already on the market since its so simple to make.
anyone know the NPT size threads of the fittings that I need to put in the rack to reroute the lines. I know stealthmode know, but he is a busness man ;) |
Re: power steering delete
Originally Posted by rudebwoy
I am removing my power steering pump and want to build my own kit got the lines and reseroir, I don't wanna buy a kit thats already on the market since its so simple to make.
anyone know the NPT size threads of the fittings that I need to put in the rack to reroute the lines. I know stealthmode know, but he is a busness man ;) |
Re: power steering delete
I unbolted all my power sterring ---- lines and all
then i threw that ---- i the garbage open lines over here :6 |
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Re: power steering delete
Originally Posted by Towdogg
I unbolted all my power sterring ---- lines and all
then i threw that ---- i the garbage open lines over here :6 |
Re: power steering delete
Originally Posted by 78NOVA
i bet turning you car is alot harder than turning mine with an actual NON-power steering rack and pinion. then again, it doesnt really take to much to turn a sub 2000lb civic :P
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I spent 4 hours searching this last night, and it seems harder and more expensive to replace the rack other than bypassing the pump lines to reseroir.
and dont forget that I am in Germany and I use APO by USPS for shipping, I have a size and weight limit to packages. and most sellers charge international for shipping. but just say I happens to find a manual rack which is my preffered method, how hard is it to do the swap? what modifications, extra parts, and is there a writup with pics? |
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just as a note I am not doing this to save weight, I am doing this to clear a big turbo with topmount manifold.
I wish someone konw sizes of the fittings. |
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you would need the rack and subframe if you switch over.
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I searched for 4 hours, and found a lot of threads over at H-T and you will be surprized of how complicated and difficult they made this job look. I started looking at pics and noticed that all I need to do is remove the factory lines, and cut the main hard line short enough to fit a rubber hose over it,T those 2 lines together, and run the 3rd end of the T to a brake reservior which I bought from ebay for $7 that came off of a motorcycle remove the cooler loop and loop the lines into each other. got all the lines in the garage, so all I will spend for this conversion is $13.50 including SH for reservoir.
will do a detailed writeup if requested after I finish. |
Re: power steering delete
Originally Posted by rudebwoy
I searched for 4 hours, and found a lot of threads over at H-T and you will be surprized of how complicated and difficult they made this job look. I started looking at pics and noticed that all I need to do is remove the factory lines, and cut the main hard line short enough to fit a rubber hose over it,T those 2 lines together, and run the 3rd end of the T to a brake reservior which I bought from ebay for $7 that came off of a motorcycle remove the cooler loop and loop the lines into each other. got all the lines in the garage, so all I will spend for this conversion is $13.50 including SH for reservoir.
will do a detailed writeup if requested after I finish. |
Re: power steering delete
Originally Posted by rudebwoy
I searched for 4 hours, and found a lot of threads over at H-T and you will be surprized of how complicated and difficult they made this job look. I started looking at pics and noticed that all I need to do is remove the factory lines, and cut the main hard line short enough to fit a rubber hose over it,T those 2 lines together, and run the 3rd end of the T to a brake reservior which I bought from ebay for $7 that came off of a motorcycle remove the cooler loop and loop the lines into each other. got all the lines in the garage, so all I will spend for this conversion is $13.50 including SH for reservoir.
will do a detailed writeup if requested after I finish. |
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just buy steves kit.....
he always puts in extras anyways... last time i got some injector clips, knives, sun glasses.. and some SWISS MISS |
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I know stealthmode has great deals, but I don't have to, I spent $13 for this setup I am putting together, plus steve's kit is for the bling bling type. it will be hidden so ain't no need for bling ;)
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I spent even less and have no power steering in my DA teg. Not sure if your rack is the same as mine but I'll give you a brief overview of what I did, take it or leave it.
Basically there is a 4-way vavle bolted to the bottom of the rack, it has an input pin from the steering column to cycle the valve left or right, inputs from the ps pump, two ports to the speed sensor on the tranny, and two ports to either side of the power piston inside the rack. I unbolted this entire assembly. Underniethe there was only the two ports to either side of the power piston and a long ass pin sticking out from the steering column. This pin moved slightly to the right or left depending on what direction the wheel was turned. It is now useless so I cut it off. Here is the rack with the valve assembly removed. You can see the two ports on the left, and the pin on the right. http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c.../Clutch001.jpg the ports to the power piston go to either side of the piston, turn the wheel and air will come out of one port and suck in the other. I dremeled a small groove to connect the two ports. http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c.../Clutch002.jpg Then I bolted a small aluminum plate I shaped with a sawsall over both ports and the open end of the steering column. I added jsut a small bead of rtv around the rim for good measure. I've been rocking it for a couple weeks now with no problems what so ever. Here is the valve assembly removed and an outline of the area needed to seal scribed into a random scrap piece of aluminum. http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c.../Clutch008.jpg Sawsall action http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c.../Clutch009.jpg RTVage, you can really see the groove I dremeled between the two ports. http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c.../Clutch010.jpg Done reusing original bolts. http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c.../Clutch011.jpg My only thing I was wondering while doing this is if I should fill both ports to the power piston with fluid so it is lubricated and has some resistance to me turning by forcing the fluid back and forth as I turn. I may experiment wiht it later and report back. The reason I did this was I had the car on the lift to change my clutch, and Yuriy had already done the rip out the lines and loop em. ---- never stayed on and was always leaking fluid all over the place. It irritated me so I was going to swap to a manual rack. I read the CRX rack would bolt in but had a worse ratio and required more turns. I decided to say ---- it I'll make this one work and stop searching for other people arguing over what works. |
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that looks like too much work
cut off wheel, rubber hose, rubber plug, 3 small hose clamps and lots of sparks/smoke lucky the stuffs not flammable O0 as for the manual rack my buddy had one in his delsol, yes mine is harder to park but i have better response/feedback and handling (at speed) at least i think |
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It seperates the men from the stoolpushers. I always just hacked the lines and drove around pumped that ---- out. Same for the AC. Hack lines and ripped everything attached to it. After that the engine bay looks like completely empty and is a breeze to work on. Not to mention looks cleaner too.
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