New Tranny fly and clutch wont go into gear HELP!
 

sup peeps.

We replaced my friends H22a tranny fly and clutch. (its in a 90 accord). With the car off it will shift into gears fine. But when the car is on, it wont shift into any gears. We tried bleeding the clutch line. Still wont shift into gears. We stummped. any help is appreciated.

~Adam

Re: New Tranny fly and clutch wont go into gear HELP!
 

you am stumped? is pin on slave pokey throwout bearing fork?not me think am

Re: New Tranny fly and clutch wont go into gear HELP!
 

clutch disc in backwards?

Re: New Tranny fly and clutch wont go into gear HELP!
 

that happened to my friends car, we had to put spacers on the slave cylinder because the clutch wouldnt engagfe all the way, not letting it go into gear why the car was on.

Re: New Tranny fly and clutch wont go into gear HELP!
 

Is the 90 a cable tranny??

That happened to my hatch, I just adjusted the cable on the tranny and it worked fine after that. I guess the cable was too loose and it would not pull the fork enough

Re: New Tranny fly and clutch wont go into gear HELP!
 

SUBJECT: Manual Transmission Difficult to Shift - Diagnostic Tips
MODEL: All with Manual Transmission
SITUATION: Transmission may be difficult to shift especially first gear engagement and/or gear shift linkage is binding. Note: Field observations have indicated that a transmission which is difficult to shift (especially into first gear) is primarily a clutch related problem and only in isolated cases a failure in the transmission itself.

PROCEDURE:

Verify the customer complaint:

Note: Engage the parking brake and assure that no people or objects are in the vehicle's path.

- Run the engine at idle speed
- Press the clutch pedal to the floor
- From the neutral stick shift position engage first gear

If first gear is difficult to engage, hold the stick shift at the resistance point (approximately half of the total stick shift travel) with constant force.

Then switch the ignition off with the other hand.

DIAGNOSIS 1:
If first gear now engages completely, i.e. the stick shift moves to the end position without any additional pressure applied, there is a problem in the clutch system.

Explanation:
Because the clutch does not uncouple completely, a residual torque is transmitted to the transmission input shaft when the engine is running. This inhibits the release and meshing of the sliding sleeve, in the transmission, at the end of the synchronization process. Turning the engine off relieves the input shaft of this torque thus simulating a completely uncoupled clutch.

DIAGNOSIS 2:
If the stick shift remains at the resistance point, there is a problem in the external gear shift linkage or in the transmission.

CAUSE:

DIAGNOSIS 1:
Possible causes for a clutch problem as per Diagnosis 1 above are:
- Input shaft taper splines not lubricated properly/grease dried out.
- Clutch disc difficult to move on transmission input shaft.
- Clutch disc wobble.
- Air in the hydraulic system of clutch mechanism.
- Release bearing defective or difficult to move on the guide sleeve.
- Clutch disc or pressure plate broken/worn out.

DIAGNOSIS 2:
Possible causes for gear shift linkage binding and/or internal transmission problems as per Diagnosis 2 above:
- External gearshift linkage binding (shift rod joints stiff).
- Stick shift bellows boot incorrectly installed (positioned too high or too low on the stick shift lever).
- Sound deadening between the outer gear shift linkage and the body incorrectly installed and/or distorted.

Possible causes inside of the transmission:
- Faulty synchronization.
- Internal gear shift linkage binding.
- Water in the transmission fluid. (rare)

Re: New Tranny fly and clutch wont go into gear HELP!
 

wow! that was sweet, where did you get this type of info? is there a site, cuz if so I need to add it to favorites, Thank you!

~AMH

Re: New Tranny fly and clutch wont go into gear HELP!
 

so far we've tried all of these things.. nothin's worked... so im thinkin we're gonna have to rip the trani back out and try again..

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^^ indeed.. my ex-gf's h22 had some odd problems after I put her new clutch in, It would not engauge will running. I had to put 2 little spacers on the end of the slave cylinder so it would extend the throw. May want to try that first before you rip the trans apart.

Jeff

Re: New Tranny fly and clutch wont go into gear HELP!
 

the clutch isnt engaging all the way, (probably just partially/hafway). I had this problem when i did my auto-manual swap and it turned out the bolts on my clutch pedals was too lose (wasnt holding the pedals when pressed). See if there's anything that might be affecting the clutch from not engaging, be it the slave cylinder or if its cable tranny, the cables, or the slave itself (binding?).

Try Abaz's idea before doing the dirty work again, unless you are for sure.

in any case:

Pick one that you havent done.