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StinkyFeet 01-08-2008 05:06 PM

new pistons on 10psi?
 
Ok, I have a simple question.
I put a fresh rebuild in my car 3 weeks ago (d16a6 bottom end)... and it broke a ring land yesterday while attempting to tune it at the dyno. (tune was A+, but mechanics failed).
10psi on t25
d16a6 block
d16y8 head

Anyway, Now im stuck wondering if I should just swap this other bottom end in, or spend some $$ and upgrade the pistons. (I really don't know if I can afford pistons AND rods right now, and not sure JUST pistons are worth the extra time/$$)

I was looking into something like this..
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vitara-Turbo-Pis...QQcmdZViewItem

Also, if I do decide to run more booster later 12-15lbs, now my rods are my weekest link. IDUNNO!!

HMTguy 01-08-2008 05:19 PM

Re: new pistons on 10psi?
 
Your rods are still your weakest link in a completely stock engine. If you aren't upgrading them, I wouldn't bother with pistons. Just make sure all specs are checked and the motor is rebuilt properly.

Ravage70 01-09-2008 02:55 AM

Re: new pistons on 10psi?
 
you blew a ringland at 10psi from a t25?
let me tell you that "tune" was not A+

E-b0la 01-09-2008 12:06 PM

Re: new pistons on 10psi?
 
Know anyone who can hook you up and do the machining for a set of LS rods? I've read LS/Vitaras should hold about 300.

StinkyFeet 01-09-2008 01:55 PM

Re: new pistons on 10psi?
 
I can get ahold of a set of ls rods... Ill search around on what needs to be done to get them in a d-series.

StinkyFeet 01-09-2008 01:57 PM

Re: new pistons on 10psi?
 

Originally Posted by Ravage70
you blew a ringland at 10psi from a t25?
let me tell you that "tune" was not A+

not quoting any names, but the tuning was done by a very respectable tuner who is a member of this website. It was a mechanical failure, and not in the tune.

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3...4mediumlz2.jpg
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/6...8mediumpd1.jpg
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/3...9mediumym9.jpg

seerex 01-09-2008 05:01 PM

Re: new pistons on 10psi?
 
Nice

JDMFantasy2K 01-09-2008 09:23 PM

Re: new pistons on 10psi?
 
how is a ringland a mechanical failure? it's not like it has a torque spec, unless you think it had a manufacturing defect, but that seems like a stretch. I'd look for another culprit such as a bad injector that wasn't flowing the proper ammount of fuel or something else.

Zeniceguycrx 01-09-2008 10:04 PM

Re: new pistons on 10psi?
 
looks like it had poor oiling, did u spec the oil pump?
also maybe u couldnt suple enuff oil with the turbo and all and that was it.

my fresh built(not rebuild) did the same ---- because teh oil pickup got cloged and then that was it

StinkyFeet 01-10-2008 10:25 AM

Re: new pistons on 10psi?
 
I had thought about the injectors... but the plugs looked pristine when we pulled them.
Also, if it was oil pump, i'd assume a bearing to go before a piston would...

Anyway, Idunno.

I ordered oversize vitara pistona, and now debating whether i can budget rods. We'll see.


there was no detonation. This was preignition.

A bit of oil build up on the corner of the piston caught on fire and combustion temps rose until the burn started consuming the metal in the combustion reaction - this is what happens when you sunder the bonds of the wet steam formed in the combustion reaction and maintain temps that don't allow free oxygen and hydrogen to combine; instead it seeks out aluminum (and to a lesser extent steel) to combine with.


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