New Axles = shaking under acceleration
 

Ok, so I snapped an axle in my '95 LSt. Bought new axles (both sides, from Autozone) and installed them. Now the car shakes during acceleration.

Its fine while cruising but applying more throttle instantly makes the ride rougher (like the road switches to gravel) and the longer I accelerate the worse it gets. I held out up till ~6psi and it was so bad I thought it was gonna shake the doors off.

Car has new Jim Fab motor mounts, Omnipower coil overs and camber kit professionally aligned by sears, its pretty low about 1 finger gap or less ... but wasn't a problem before. New tires, mounted and balanced.

This just started after I replaced the axles but I have changed axles before, I'm quite capable, never had problems before. They look like there in all the way. Brought it back home and put it up on jack stands. Nothing loose or out of place. Axles still look new, no rubbing issues, not hot to the touch, can spin either wheel easily by hand on stands .... ???

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Cheap axles aren't balanced like factory axles, get better quality balanced axles or go toa shop that balances them, place do drive shafts for rear wheel drive cars, sure they could do yours

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What the F! I thought alot of us were running the autozone specials for their lifetime warranty .... is this a common problem?

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My friends car does it, I just picked up a set my self and we'll see if they do it for me too, but i think its fairly common

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What the hell am I gonna do now? I don't have $$$ for the upgraded axles ... I need to get the car tuned but a full pull to 10psi would eject his ass out the window/missing door >:(

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wouldnt hurt to check your tire pressure....its a SEARS alignment....ive had cars come in with 80 psi of pressure in one tire thats only supposed to have 32psi...

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changed the shaft im my 95 civ, same ----
sent it back and got a new one, the old one didnt have a balance ring on it
new axel is perfect again

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Hmm ... I broke the drivers side axle right at the balance ring .... can't recall a balance ring being on the new one ... I'll have to look again tomorrow. :7

I thought I was savin myself future work by replacing both ... but now IDK which one is the problem .. and such a PIA to swap back to stock , test drive, back to new, etc .... this is rediculous....burn this car to the ground

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I thought I saw this on honda-tech....
Yeah like i said in that thread too, take them out and get them balanced at a driveshaft shop. The cost should be pretty low, like about $50 per side. The company Raxles (i think thats the name), remanufactures axles and actually does balance them and I've heard all good stories about peoples cars not shaking after using them. Getting your lifetime axles balanced would be the best idea i think. I might do the same but I know my friend is going to get it done on his 97 LS turbo soon (well thats what he says at least), i'll try to remember to update if this cures the problem. He has also replaced all of his axles and has poly inserts in all of his mounts (all dc integra mounts that is) so something loose is not the issue for his car either.

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I thought it might be b/c of my car being mis aligned too but then I got an alignment that cost me nearly $200 b/c the fuckers said my car was low and they complained about having a hard time doing it.... the car doesnt pull bad and still shakes. I know my friends teg who i was just talking about above also has had an alignment since it was lowered and the problem was not fixed. This could be a low-car related problem b/c both of us are lowered over 2.5in...but then you said you have a finger something gap, so i guess that theory wouldnt work.

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put the car in the air(just the front) and check for side to side play in your inner and outter tierods and B.J.'a

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Everythings tight. I just rebuilt this car from being totaled. Every part forward of the firewall including a section of frame. Got it all together, hwy patrol inspected, sears aligned, turboed it, all ran and drove fine until the snapped axle leading to these replacements now this ----.

So heres what I am planning for tomorrow:

Pull the passenger side and replace with the stocker (with fingers crossed that its the problem). If it no longer shakes I'll take the new passenger side axle to be exchanged, if it still does I'll pull the new drivers side axle and take it into be exchanged ... I wish my drivers side stocker wasn't in 2 pieces so that I could narrow the problem down to one of the new ones .. or be sure that its both ...

I am not into the balancing deal, I don't have the extra $100 to spend or else I would have got raxles or something ... plus I don't feel like I should have to pay $100 to have brand new axles balanced, Auto Zone should sell me working ones the first time ....

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your axle if they are from autozone carry a lifetime gaurentee(sp?) i had a civic with a LS swap shook HORRIBLY i thought the car was gonna fall apart and it turns out the axle was warped it looked perfect but it was fucked, i changed it took the shaking awake instantly and all problems were no more, hope this helps. :)

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It's pretty much what we have to pay for to get ---- that works like OEM still w/o the huge price-tag. I've checked all of my joints numerous times and they're all fine..I honsetly wish this problems was that simple. I mean your car will run fine shaking under acceleration, it'll probably hurt the tranny a bit in the end but my friend has been boosting his teg for a year w/the shaky axles and his car is still fine (and he does big smoky burnouts all the time on his LS tranny).

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There would be no living with my problem ... 3rd @ 10psi would be shakin to pieces and runing people off the road.

I swapped the passenger side axle for the stocker and it stopped it. Took the axle back to auto zone (did you know they sell these remanned ones and a "new" axle for $99.99 ? I never even knew...) and exchanged it for another reman ... I'll swap it in tomorrow and see if its gonna work.

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Yeah I think there is certain degrees of shaking w/the axles. My unboosted LS does it to a lesser degree than my friend's boosted one. I'll have to see how my friend's LS-CRX is though, we just put new remans in it, but w/the solid motor mounts and the open header everything is already vibrating to hell and its kinda hard to tell what the hell is going on w/the car beyond that it runs and pulls. Once the exhaust is hooked up we should be able to tell if they shake though.

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I have solid mounts and did have open DP and the car ir rough at idle but when pulling through boost its pretty smooth ... I would say if you had a problem like mine you would know it , there is no missing it .... you could put a 4yr old in the car and they would be like " WTF, something is wrong with this car" ....


Got the new reman in today. I would say there is slightly more vibration under full boost acceleration than with the stockers but much better than the violent shaking I had the first round. And its fine cruising or accelerating to pass on the hwy etc so I am gonna live with it until the car kills them ...

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ok, so I took it out just now and it went from not so bad to as bad as ever from one pull to another .... OMFG .... I am going to end myself. >:( :'( :7 :S :X >:D

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That just sux.

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hmm. One time i had an inner cv explode and spit its little steel donuts everywhere... Surprisingly the tripod on the end of the driveshaft that fits into the cv cup wedged itself into place enough for me to get home. It vibrated like hell but got me home.

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Ok so I got around to pulling them again today and called up to AZ and explained and got them to agree to take them + $$ for the new (not remanned) axles. They said they would have to order them but they would take ~5days. So I went up there and they can't order them because their supplier is out or something so I asked if I could just get my money back and after a brief " Now, you don't ever race this car do you? " , type thing I got a refund ...

But that just leaves me where I started money wise and plus now I have no cores :1

So IDK what to do ... are Pepboys axles known to be good? I almost want to spend the money on DSS stg 1s but thats really more than I can spend and what if I get them and it still shakes then I am really broke and still fucked ....

Might the intermediate shaft be to blame? I imagine its original with 167k on it ... when I was pulling the drivers side axle out of it today I kinda thought that there was alittle more up and down play than there should be , like maybe a 1/16 of an inch either way wen it was still all the way in and seated :-\ but that doesn't explain it coming and going with the remanned axle install ...

Suggestions? ???

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My friend who had a shaking problem (with the boosted 97 LS), said he did a big smokey burnout, and it went away. :S

Your problem is sucky. I'd look into mid-shaft play b/c if there is any, i cant imagine the car wouldnt shake. I would just slap another set of remans in it. I mean, its all your gonna get for cheap, and you need axles. I'd just assume that the remans are good and look to other things like your diff or the midshaft. I mean it doesnt make sense that these two things could be to blame b/c of axles getting better and worse depending on the one installed....but what does make sense here?

My shaking sucks, but I can live with it. It doesnt make the car outa control, its just a pain and makes stuff rattle at certain speeds. I figure since I'm going lower soon, i'll probably mess up an axles in no time, so i'll just buy some of those balanced Raxles at some point.

Good luck with your mystery shaking.

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Mystery shaking can easily be led to your car being to low, or a Ishaft going out. If your car is lower then 2.5inches your axles are going to be a little bit at a goofy angle, If you have coil overs try raising it up to see if it will go away.


and pep boys axles arent any better than any others out there on the market, I've tried from csk/autozone/pep whatever, they are all about the same. Or try this place, its about 10 blocks from my house, pretty decent ----.

http://www.fwdaxles.com/

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I've heard this from people soo many times but I know plenty of people with slammed and boosted honda that have no shaking problem and don't even break oem axles unless they're running slicks. My friend's 97 LS is dropped over 3 inches and even doing burnouts every week with his turbo'd car, his axles only shake a bit... I think its pretty much a throw-up whether you get a good reman or not, and with dropped cars, it seems your chances or even more slim to get some that don't shake...

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I guess I'll try raising it up a bit on the next round ... but not much, maybe an 1/8"

Thinkin about these -> http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1576175 since I have no cores ... thoughts? Better ideas?

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That sucks for the price. Did you call up some local shops for prices on new non-reman axles? I know my one friend bought one for his teg and it cost twice as much as the reman, but they should carry them, probably will be the same price as pro-street minus shipping. I've seen some used gator axles go for under $300...sucks you cant find some of them.

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Yeah I have been looking for a used set of Gators or DSS axles. I guess I'll see if Pepboys has a set of new axles available since AZ can't get them.

Guys what can I be doing in the mean time to check other possible sources of my shaking problem?

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use a pry bar under your nuckle and pry it up to see if u have any bj play, also check your inner and outer tierods

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I have autozone axles on my CRX and they are fine. The car is lowered about 1.75 inches.

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ive been using az axels for a long time changed them with other az axels too never any problems had neuspeed springs now ground controls i would guess your problem is elesewhere if youve tried a couple sets and still no good maybe somethings bent since you said the cars been rebuilt.... midshaft?

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I rebuilt it, nothing is bent. I welded in a new core support and frame section. Also replaced all suspension parts including sub frame and steering rack. I have put probably 500 miles on the car since I did the repairs and seen 120mph + with no problems until this axle BS.

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Probably not it...but did you ever get a front end alignment after all that suspension work?
Some people overlook that and having it all aligned makees a huge difference usually.

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Yes, when I finished it the car was way out of alignment as expected. Got it aligned at Sears and everything was cool until I decided to see what she really had .... which was just enough to kill an axle .... now all these probs

Called Pepboys today. $69.99 + $50 core ea for remans ... they don't have new ones. :7

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So.... my cars just sittin in the garage on stands .... bein a POS .... I wish OBX/BLOX would hurry up and copy some raxles for me ....

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UPDATE: So I got a chance to talk to the store manager and told him the whole story and that I was less than satisfied with not having any cores to turn in elsewhere and so he refunded me $45 for ea core :o

So I went to another AZ location and they ordered me some NEW ones no problem ... supposed to be here tuesday :6

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Awesome. Hopefully the new ones stop your shaking.

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New axles are in and car runs smooth :y

Just nice smooth acceleration with some turbo hissing, then a bump in the road, and some scraping sounds ::)

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What are the scraping sounds?

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lol ... my car is too low... I think its the tow hooks scraping the road ... I am gonna try and get my KYBs swapped into it to replace the stockers and see if it gets better , but I might just have to raise it up some ... :8