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b16crex 01-13-2005 10:17 PM

modified b16 startup issues
 
alright, so i wired up my vafc lastnight and reset it to factory defaults. Chipped my pm6 ecu and burned a b16a basemap recurved for my 450cc injectors with turbo edit. Keep in mind that i relocated / rewired my msd ignition with external coil... I turn the key to start the car and it will crank all day long but will not startup. The ecu is throwing code 20 eld... and code 8 TDC?!?! wtf. Any ideas? :-\

crx2fast 01-14-2005 05:29 AM

Re:modified b16 startup issues
 
you sure everything is hooked up correctly, theres probly something not done right. those are some wierd codes being thrown out. i would go back and double check everything, make sure theres no loose wires and what not.

DAVe 01-14-2005 08:31 AM

Re:modified b16 startup issues
 
after you check everything again. try another ECU. If it starts up, you know it's the ECU, if it doesn't you know it is the VAFC wiring. just a thought.

B16CRXT 01-14-2005 11:10 AM

Re:modified b16 startup issues
 
Have you checked for spark? Also, check your timing. I realize you havent touched the timing belt, but somehow that ---- magically gets fucked up on me every time I mess with anything and it acts like you are describing :-\

whiterice 01-14-2005 11:14 AM

Re:modified b16 startup issues
 
back step and do each one of those making sure the car works after.
i know thats a lot of work. i'll help if you're in socal.
good luck.

b16crex 01-14-2005 02:53 PM

Re:modified b16 startup issues
 
alright, ill check everything you guys mentioned tonight and let you guys know if i have any luck. Thanks dooDs!

I'm located east coast but soon socal, maybe 1 and half years ;D

b16crex 01-14-2005 03:57 PM

Re:modified b16 startup issues
 
alright so i found that one of the connectors to the distributor was disconnected, my stupid fault :P so i connected it and the car starts up but i have to keep the throttle open for the car to stay on. if i let go of the throttle, it will not idle and shuts off. I am still throwing a code 8 with the distributor connected?,would that code go away if i took the negative off the battery to reset the ecu? i think it threw the code in the first place because i didnt have the distributor connectors hooked up. any ideas on how i can get the car to idle? car wont rev past 4000 rpms

b16crex 01-14-2005 05:40 PM

Re:modified b16 startup issues
 
update! code 8 is gone once i rechipped the ecu. i redid the b16 basemap with 450cc curve. still cannot get the bitch to idle it just dies? I dont have the intake hooked up or the downpipe to the exhaust, could that be the cause of it dieing and not idling? damn i am a noob... sooo confused

projekteg 01-14-2005 06:40 PM

Re:modified b16 startup issues
 
i don't believe the pr3 rom supports boost in turbo edit, maybe that's where your problem is. try scaling the map for 450's like you've done, but don't touch any of the boost settings in turbo edit, just to see if you can get it to idle.

b16crex 01-14-2005 07:58 PM

Re:modified b16 startup issues
 

Originally Posted by projekteg
i don't believe the pr3 rom supports boost in turbo edit, maybe that's where your problem is. try scaling the map for 450's like you've done, but don't touch any of the boost settings in turbo edit, just to see if you can get it to idle.

sup projekteg, i havent touched any of the boast settings... as of right now i am trying to get the car running N/a with my stock header no turbo right now because i dont have the charge pipes... so im confused as to why the basemap will not let me idle... or rev past 4000 rpms. I dont have the intake pipe connected to the TB or the header pipe connected to the exhaust. could this be the cause of my problems? I reset all the settings on my vafc to factory im stumped ???

B16CRXT 01-14-2005 08:58 PM

Re:modified b16 startup issues
 
wait, I thought you said you were using a PM6?

b16crex 01-14-2005 09:21 PM

Re:modified b16 startup issues
 
i am using a pm6, its chipped for turbo edit with the pr3 stock rom... recurved for 450 injectors the car will idle for a second then shut off. and it doesn't like to rev much...

TurboBoostMistress 01-14-2005 10:16 PM

Re:modified b16 startup issues
 
is this alis old crx? the ebp one? hahah u still havent got that thing goin? btw the zdyne was perfectly fine....

projekteg 01-14-2005 11:56 PM

Re:modified b16 startup issues
 
try using the pr4 map and see what that does. also, since you don't have your down pipe on the header, is your o2 sensor not getting a reading, or is it in the stock location near the top of the header?

b16crex 01-15-2005 02:41 PM

Re:modified b16 startup issues
 

Originally Posted by TurboBoostMistress
is this alis old crx? the ebp one? hahah u still havent got that thing goin? btw the zdyne was perfectly fine....

for your info, there is something wrong with the zdyne, when i sent it to zdyne the first time they had to fix a few things on the ecu and it still does not work and hasn't from the start. The people at zdyne don't know what is wrong with the ecu either.

b16crex 01-15-2005 02:44 PM

Re:modified b16 startup issues
 

Originally Posted by projekteg
try using the pr4 map and see what that does. also, since you don't have your down pipe on the header, is your o2 sensor not getting a reading, or is it in the stock location near the top of the header?

projekteg, i will try out a pr4 basemap... and let you know the results. the o2 is located on the lower section of the 2-peice header and is wired. I have to check if it is recieving current.

b16crex 01-15-2005 04:43 PM

Re:modified b16 startup issues
 
pr4 basemap was a no go. The pr3 acted better

b16crex 01-15-2005 09:49 PM

Re:modified b16 startup issues
 
fawk it!!!! i give up. :'(

crx304 01-15-2005 10:52 PM

Re:modified b16 startup issues
 
for one, the rom is prolly too lean. on startup, the injectors are dumping more fuel than @ idle. so scale it up 5% at first across the board.

secondly, check and see if the launch control is activated @ 4000 rpm on the basemap (it will disengage @ 8mph) i think that it is, so edit it and make it like 6000rpm, or disengage it completly

hope this helps
mike


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