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iceknight24 08-23-2006 11:32 PM

mixing heads with blocks
 
what do i get mixing a cx d15b7 block with a ex d16z6 head?
what kinda hp am i looking to get?
whats the diffarence between d15b7 block and crank to d16z6 block and crank?

0b00st0 08-24-2006 12:04 AM

Re: mixing heads with blocks
 

Originally Posted by iceknight24
what do i get mixing a cx d15b7 block with a ex d16z6 head?
what kinda hp am i looking to get?
whats the diffarence between d15b7 block and crank to d16z6 block and crank?

You get what is referred to as a mini-me.

D15 block has shorter deck height and the crank has smaller bearings and a smallerr stroke.





88dx 08-24-2006 12:26 AM

Re: mixing heads with blocks
 
I know next to nothing about D-series but i think the CX motors are 8valves so the pistons dont have the valve reliefs in them so a z6 head on a 8v block would = :X

iceknight24 08-24-2006 01:17 AM

Re: mixing heads with blocks
 
that about a d16y7 block and crank with a d16z6 head?
is that a good combo?
and it will be sleeved and have turbo pistons put in.

0b00st0 08-24-2006 05:38 PM

Re: mixing heads with blocks
 

Originally Posted by iceknight24
that about a d16y7 block and crank with a d16z6 head?
is that a good combo?
and it will be sleeved and have turbo pistons put in.


A Y7 block is the same as a Y8. The oil pumps are questionable on those motors though. You might want to change to a Z6 pump, pickup, and pan.

It will be a complete Z6 then, basically.




Ravage70 08-24-2006 09:49 PM

Re: mixing heads with blocks
 

Originally Posted by MADMAX

A Y7 block is the same as a Y8. The oil pumps are questionable on those motors though. You might want to change to a Z6 pump, pickup, and pan.

It will be a complete Z6 then, basically.

I dont think the pump will work without redrilling.
Anyways for a z6 head on a y block you need 9 y bolts and 1 z6 bolt

0b00st0 08-25-2006 01:22 AM

Re: mixing heads with blocks
 

Originally Posted by Ravage70
I dont think the pump will work without redrilling.
Anyways for a z6 head on a y block you need 9 y bolts and 1 z6 bolt

You have to match the pump with the pan. You would only need to redrill when using say a Z6 pump with a Y7/Y8 pan.



iceknight24 08-25-2006 02:38 AM

Re: mixing heads with blocks
 

Originally Posted by Ravage70
I dont think the pump will work without redrilling.
Anyways for a z6 head on a y block you need 9 y bolts and 1 z6 bolt

well i got a d16y5 block and crank and i have a d16z6 oil pump and pan
and a d16z6 head will that all work all together?
and why is it u need only one z6 head stud and not all.
on my ls vtec i had u used the head stud that mached the head.
so on a y5 block i would use 9y and one z6 and where do i put the one z6 at on the bolt pattern?

FooK 08-25-2006 03:27 AM

Re: mixing heads with blocks
 

Originally Posted by MADMAX
A Y7 block is the same as a Y8. The oil pumps are questionable on those motors though. You might want to change to a Z6 pump, pickup, and pan.

It will be a complete Z6 then, basically.

do that and you'll never have to check the oil!

nor will you be able to.

d16y-series blocks = oil dipstick part of the oil pump housing = with z6 pump = no dipstick.

ProzacOverdose 08-25-2006 03:11 PM

Re: mixing heads with blocks
 
wow....why are you complicating this? these motors are a dime a dozen...pic up a z6, or y8, or even a y7....anything 16v would be better. There isn't much in mix matching these little guys. Unless you want to waste money on a new trend called "what works with what".

0b00st0 08-25-2006 03:22 PM

Re: mixing heads with blocks
 

Originally Posted by FooK
do that and you'll never have to check the oil!

nor will you be able to.

d16y-series blocks = oil dipstick part of the oil pump housing = with z6 pump = no dipstick.


Good call.




iceknight24 08-25-2006 09:15 PM

Re: mixing heads with blocks
 
so is there a way to move the oil stick
or is there another oil pump i can use on a y5 block thats good
all i hear is Y pumps are crap and why?
what if i was to use a d16a6 block would that be better then y5 block?

Guy-Fast 08-26-2006 08:29 AM

Re: mixing heads with blocks
 
I fucked a y8 oil pump last night

Slo_crx1 08-26-2006 10:36 AM

Re: mixing heads with blocks
 

Originally Posted by iceknight24
...on my ls vtec i had u used the head stud that mached the head.

Did you end up stripping out the block? :P GSR head bolts on any ls/vtec combo...no matter if you have a b16 head, gsr head, or type-r. And why downgrade from a b-series to a d? :-X

z1guy 08-26-2006 11:11 AM

Re: mixing heads with blocks
 

Originally Posted by Ravage70
I dont think the pump will work without redrilling.
Anyways for a z6 head on a y block you need 9 y bolts and 1 z6 bolt

wrong, use all 88-95 bolts, when putting a Y head on an 88-95 block use 9 88-95 bolts and 1 Y bolt.

iceknight24 08-26-2006 11:20 AM

Re: mixing heads with blocks
 

Originally Posted by slo_crx1
Did you end up stripping out the block? :P GSR head bolts on any ls/vtec combo...no matter if you have a b16 head, gsr head, or type-r. And why downgrade from a b-series to a d? :-X

i had to sell the motor for a new car my car was totled and the motor was fine.
as for the gsr head studs there were fine they worked perfect.

88-95 block use 9 88-95 bolts and 1 Y bolt.
where does the one Y bolt go?

Ravage70 08-26-2006 06:22 PM

Re: mixing heads with blocks
 

Originally Posted by z1guy
wrong, use all 88-95 bolts, when putting a Y head on an 88-95 block use 9 88-95 bolts and 1 Y bolt.

my d series head stud knowledge is right

drunkinmaster1 08-26-2006 06:52 PM

Re: mixing heads with blocks
 

Originally Posted by iceknight24
so is there a way to move the oil stick
or is there another oil pump i can use on a y5 block thats good
all i hear is Y pumps are crap and why?
what if i was to use a d16a6 block would that be better then y5 block?

there are oilpump mods for the obd2 oilpump.
the reason it sucks is because it doesnt flow as much as the obd1 or z6 oilpump.
but here are the mods.
http://www.theoldone.com/articles/d_...mp%201%20A.jpg
http://www.theoldone.com/articles/d_...mp%202%20A.jpg
and opening the holes in the bearings.
http://www.theoldone.com/articles/d_...tting%201A.jpg
http://www.theoldone.com/articles/d_...building_tips/

iceknight24 08-27-2006 01:49 AM

Re: mixing heads with blocks
 
drunkinmaster1 thx for the oil pump page it helps alot.
last where does the one heas stud go the odd one?
thx for all the help all.

z1guy 08-27-2006 09:51 AM

Re: mixing heads with blocks
 

Originally Posted by Ravage70
my d series head stud knowledge is right

umm, no its not. well, i guess it might be, but what you wrote is wrong.


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