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ZC4ME 09-25-2005 10:22 AM

Hydrolocked motor.
 
The other night, my wife was leaving work and it was raining pretty hard and there was an intersection in the mall parking lot that was flooded, she could not tell that it was flooded and drove into it hydrolocking her motor (CAI on a 2.0 FS-DE in a Protege). Anyway, a buddy and I pulled the plugs, removed the intake and spend 2.5 to 3 hours getting water out of the cylinders and the intake manifold. We were fortunate enough to get it running and there is no apparent damage, no knocking or anything like that. I drove the car about 2.5 miles to my shop and changed the oil but not the filter, it looked like chocolate yohoo and there was about a quart extra in there. I normally run Mobile 1 full synthetic in the car and had just changed it 1800 miles ago. I put some cheap valvoline synthetic in it and plan on running it for a couple of days, changing the oil and the filter, run it for a week and then do it all again with the good mobile 1 oil and filter again. My question is, do you think any minor water left in there is enought to damage the bearings or anything like that? I was fortunate enought to not have to replace the motor due to the hydrolock, I don't want to ---- it up with residual water left in there.

Ravage70 09-25-2005 10:43 AM

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first of all take off ur cai

and i dought any minute amount of left over water will do anything

ZC4ME 09-25-2005 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravage70
first of all take off ur cai

and i dought any minute amount of left over water will do anything

Man, she has had the CAI on there for the three years she has had the car, it's never been a problem and she knows where she can and can't drive. The area that flooded never did this till they redid part of the parking lot to accomodate a new store and the area that flooded was so wide ------, you could not tell where it started or ended. I can promise you, if this would have been a turbo's honda and the filter was mounted right to the inlet of the turbo like alot of people do, it still would have ------- sucked water in. All I am really concerned about is the residual water left in the motor/oil pan.

darksol2005 09-25-2005 01:20 PM

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if your that concerned about it, just change the oil twice or three times before putting in your normal oil. and change the filter too. also, why the hell do you have a cai on a protege???

ZC4ME 09-25-2005 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by darksol2005
if your that concerned about it, just change the oil twice or three times before putting in your normal oil. and change the filter too. also, why the hell do you have a cai on a protege???

18 and still don't know how to ------- read huh, why the hell are you on an internet forum then??? I said I was going to change it at least twice before I ran my normal choice of oil. My concern was the residual water left in the crankcase. If I wanted an opinion of whether or not I should keep the CAI on there or if it should be there in the first place I would have asked.....ASSHAT. And do me a favor, save your 18 year old come backs for somebody who gives a flying ----. You little fucks don't always know as much as you think you do.

darksol2005 09-25-2005 01:34 PM

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and obviously you don't know as much as you think either cockbag. it's kinda common sense, if you think there's still water in there, keep changing the oil. makes sense to me.

ZC4ME 09-25-2005 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by darksol2005
and obviously you don't know as much as you think either cockbag. it's kinda common sense, if you think there's still water in there, keep changing the oil. makes sense to me.

blah blah blah, thank you for playing, now go finish playing with yourself ::)

45psi 09-26-2005 08:07 AM

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yeah man, if your worried about that, just keep flushing the motor with oil.

B16CRXT 09-26-2005 02:44 PM

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I agree that two or three oil changes should get any water out.

ZC4ME 09-26-2005 04:00 PM

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Yea, I figured that changing the oil a few times would get all the water out, I was just concerned that the residual water in there would damage the bearings before I got it all out. Funny, insurance called me today and I told them I fixed it and she wanted to know if I wanted reimbursed for my time, lol. I should have said yes, but I said no, I want to be assured that if something goes wrong in a couple of weeks that it will be taken care of and she said it would not be a problem. So, I'm content for now, gonna change the oil again tomorrow and then again in 5 days to a week. She got lucky on this one ^-^

mahcivic 09-26-2005 07:09 PM

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your lucky....i hydro locked mine the other week and it bent a rod. fucked the ---- out of the cylinder walls and made the oil all milky and nasty. hope it all works for you. and this was my gsr too :(

ZC4ME 09-26-2005 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mahcivic
your lucky....i hydro locked mine the other week and it bent a rod. fucked the ---- out of the cylinder walls and made the oil all milky and nasty. hope it all works for you. and this was my gsr too :(

Yea dude, she did get lucky. When I saw what she drove through, I totally figured the motor was a loss. I told her to pay close attention to the car and listen for anything out of the ordinary. She told me today that it seems totally like it used to. That really sucks that you focked up your GSR motor.

con 09-26-2005 09:03 PM

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I have done hundreds of intakes and head gaskets on cars and got antifreeze or water in the oil countless times at work, I pull the drain plug let it run till its just oil(water sits on the bottem of oil), start it till the t stat opens and then let it drain out good, fill her up with fresh stuff, new filter and I have never lost a bottem end yet. so in other words if its hot when you change the oil(before it seperates) and you did it 2 times your golden, good luck ;)

con 09-26-2005 09:11 PM

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not to mention the coutless times I have sunk my 4x4's past the valve covers and gave them a quick oil change with no problems. You need a decent amount of water in there to do damage big guy 8)

J-SMITH69 09-26-2005 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ZC4ME

Originally Posted by darksol2005
if your that concerned about it, just change the oil twice or three times before putting in your normal oil. and change the filter too. also, why the hell do you have a cai on a protege???

18 and still don't know how to ------- read huh, why the hell are you on an internet forum then??? I said I was going to change it at least twice before I ran my normal choice of oil. My concern was the residual water left in the crankcase. If I wanted an opinion of whether or not I should keep the CAI on there or if it should be there in the first place I would have asked.....ASSHAT. And do me a favor, save your 18 year old come backs for somebody who gives a flying ----. You little fucks don't always know as much as you think you do.

never heard of oil stabalizer? its like 4 dollars at wal-mart

change the oil once, run it a couple... change the oil and filter and you are good to go.

ive done it a million times. you guys are really arguing over something very stupid

ZC4ME 09-27-2005 12:15 AM

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Thanks again guys. Sorry if we upset you Johnny ::) :-*

J-SMITH69 09-27-2005 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ZC4ME
Thanks again guys. Sorry if we upset you Johnny ::) :-*

i appreciate the kisses

ZC4ME 09-27-2005 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by random-strike

Originally Posted by ZC4ME
Thanks again guys. Sorry if we upset you Johnny ::) :-*

i appreciate the kisses

LOL

con 09-27-2005 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike

Originally Posted by ZC4ME

Originally Posted by darksol2005
if your that concerned about it, just change the oil twice or three times before putting in your normal oil. and change the filter too. also, why the hell do you have a cai on a protege???

18 and still don't know how to ------- read huh, why the hell are you on an internet forum then??? I said I was going to change it at least twice before I ran my normal choice of oil. My concern was the residual water left in the crankcase. If I wanted an opinion of whether or not I should keep the CAI on there or if it should be there in the first place I would have asked.....ASSHAT. And do me a favor, save your 18 year old come backs for somebody who gives a flying ----. You little fucks don't always know as much as you think you do.

never heard of oil stabalizer? its like 4 dollars at wal-mart

change the oil once, run it a couple... change the oil and filter and you are good to go.

ive done it a million times. you guys are really arguing over something very stupid

oil stabilizer is ----, it makes oil foam.(air in oil takes out bearings) Oil is designed to hold a certin amount of water without foaming. You dont need aditional additives, spend your money on better oil :P

krustindumm 09-28-2005 07:23 PM

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after the first change i wouldn't worry about it. Any water should all boil off in the first couple off heat cycles.

Also, the water and oil don't mix, and water is heavier, so the water should settle to the bottom of the pan if you leave it for awhile.

caged 10-02-2005 03:07 AM

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i wouldnt worry too much. Iv done it a few times. just pull out the plugs and wind it over with the throttle wide open till most of the waters out, leave it for an hour then put the plugs back in and fire her up. i run it till it gets hot then when its a bit colder dump the oil and filter and replace. dont waste you money on all that oil.

bigciv 10-02-2005 03:18 AM

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are guys kidding me...there is still water in the valves...valve guides...and the rest of the head for that matter....you can flush the oil 5 or 6t times and not get the water out,....that is why you never hear of a hydrolocked motor ever running again...that ---- is deshed homi....the rest of that water in there you cant get out will either freezed and break ---- or cause air bubbles or cavitations and wear away bearings and ----....trust me i go to school for this ----

Spenser 10-02-2005 06:26 PM

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bullshit faggot.

bigciv 10-02-2005 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Spenser
bullshit faggot.




haha ok well than lets hear what actually would happen

d16turd 10-03-2005 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bigciv
are guys kidding me...there is still water in the valves...valve guides...and the rest of the head for that matter....you can flush the oil 5 or 6t times and not get the water out,....that is why you never hear of a hydrolocked motor ever running again...that ---- is deshed homi....the rest of that water in there you cant get out will either freezed and break ---- or cause air bubbles or cavitations and wear away bearings and ----....trust me i go to school for this ----

thats funny water in the valve guides. oh and just to let you know a dumdass i know just hydrlocked his srt-4 i built. pulled the head and oil pan put 1 new rod and a new set pistons and the car fire right up and has been driving around fine since it was hydro locked. its just water i will eventually makes its way to the oil pan. and im pretty sure if you get the engine up to operating temp. the water that will be in the valve guides (as you say it will be )will be gone. just flush the motor a coulpe times you should be good to good.

J-SMITH69 10-03-2005 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bigciv
are guys kidding me...there is still water in the valves...valve guides...and the rest of the head for that matter....you can flush the oil 5 or 6t times and not get the water out,....that is why you never hear of a hydrolocked motor ever running again...that ---- is deshed homi....the rest of that water in there you cant get out will either freezed and break ---- or cause air bubbles or cavitations and wear away bearings and ----....trust me i go to school for this ----

ya thats pretty much bullshit

the same ---- happens when you blow headgaskets, water mixed with oil everywhere oil is supposed to go. ive blown abou 5144122 headgaskets

Ravage70 10-03-2005 10:27 AM

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water evaporates from the heat ;)
maybe if u hydrolock ur engine and store it for a couple months then thats a different story

ZC4ME 10-03-2005 07:35 PM

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Jesus, you guys are still going on with this thread, lol. The car is FINE. I changed the oil today and couldn't see any water in the oil. It drives fine, it idles fine, it seems just fine. I am going to run it for another week or two and go back to mobile one synthetic. I have been using some of the four cases of valvoline synthetic that I got for free a few years ago. along with cheapy Fram filters. I figured this was a good reason to use them, cause I really don't care for either :-\



Ok, back to the regularly scheduled bickering....

con 10-03-2005 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bigciv
are guys kidding me...there is still water in the valves...valve guides...and the rest of the head for that matter....you can flush the oil 5 or 6t times and not get the water out,....that is why you never hear of a hydrolocked motor ever running again...that ---- is deshed homi....the rest of that water in there you cant get out will either freezed and break ---- or cause air bubbles or cavitations and wear away bearings and ----....trust me i go to school for this ----

HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I wasnt even that stupid when I was 10 years old. You should stop going to school cuz your teacher is an idiot.

WIND 10-05-2005 02:20 AM

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i notice nobody ever talk about "motor flush" which you can buy for 2-3$ at autozone/advance auto/walmart. or maybe i missed it reading but i used it only once and it get the work done right away and changed the oil filter too. oil filter only 3-4$ so its better just to change it at the same time you change oil or in this case flush the motor... anyhow the flush works awesome. you run the car for 5 mins at a certain rpm and this thing makes the oil thin like water and everything drips out and at the same time it cleans the internals. it took a lot of gunk off alot of high milleage motors i've used it on too.


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