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VtecHatch 09-07-2004 12:46 AM

How to fix synchros
 
I just bought a 91 si crx and the sinkroids (not sure how to spell it) But are they fixable or do i need a new clutch and all?



thanks
scott

Reddy 09-07-2004 01:03 AM

Re:How to fix sinkroids??<<spelling
 
I have no idea what the ---- your talking about but that part is probably next to your headlamp oil

RedRacerCivic 09-07-2004 01:27 AM

Re:How to fix sinkroids??<<spelling
 
he's talking about the synchros in the tranny. Yes synchros can be fixed if you got alot of $$$

Laosta 09-07-2004 01:38 AM

Re:How to fix sinkroids??<<spelling
 

Originally Posted by RedRacerCivic
he's talking about the synchros in the tranny. Yes synchros can be fixed if you got alot of $$$

How much? range? or just buy new tranny. B/c id rather change mine instead b/c I have a hydro ls tranny and its hard to find. I want it over gsr trannys and stuff b.c i dont want to be on da freeway going 70mph and and reving over 3 grand with da gsr tran. ls tranny revs lower, saves gas!

Turbo90Accord4DR 09-07-2004 02:39 AM

Re:How to fix sinkroids??<<spelling
 
99% of the time the syncro's dont go bad, the slider on honda tranny's always go bad, they get a sharp edge and pass the syncro to fast and grind on the gear, been through 3 gsr tranny's because of this (1 being mine and 2 my friend)

con 09-07-2004 09:22 AM

Re:How to fix sinkroids??<<spelling
 
If you need some roids hit hotrex up, he can get cypinate but I like eq its deca for horses, makes you big FAST! and comes in 30mil jugs :P

Ravage70 09-07-2004 10:11 AM

Re:How to fix sinkroids??<<spelling
 
bicep goes big

pipi go...bye bye

robs99si 09-07-2004 10:32 AM

Re:How to fix sinkroids??<<spelling
 

Originally Posted by Ravage70
bicep goes big

pipi go...bye bye

i don't know about roids, but when i took androstat, i use to lay down pipe like there's no tommorow!

Infinite 09-08-2004 10:57 PM

Re:How to fix sinkroids??<<spelling
 
sorry for the hijack but i have a qustion as well.

I have a 99' si and evey now and then it grinds into 2nd. Its only when im on it really hard but just shifting into second normally feels a little well, "sandy" for lack of a better term, but its only when its up to temp, when i just crank it, it doesnt do it

crx2fast 09-09-2004 05:28 AM

Re:How to fix synchros
 
i have heard that gm syncro mesh tranny fluid might solve the problem of a slight grind. try it out!!

projekteg 09-09-2004 06:59 AM

Re:How to fix sinkroids??<<spelling
 

Originally Posted by Laosta

Originally Posted by RedRacerCivic
he's talking about the synchros in the tranny. Yes synchros can be fixed if you got alot of $$$

How much? range? or just buy new tranny. B/c id rather change mine instead b/c I have a hydro ls tranny and its hard to find. I want it over gsr trannys and stuff b.c i dont want to be on da freeway going 70mph and and reving over 3 grand with da gsr tran. ls tranny revs lower, saves gas!

you'd be better off getting a new/used tranny, hydro ls aren't that hard to come by, it's the cable ls tranny's that are hard to come by.



Originally Posted by Infinite
sorry for the hijack but i have a qustion as well.

I have a 99' si and evey now and then it grinds into 2nd. Its only when im on it really hard but just shifting into second normally feels a little well, "sandy" for lack of a better term, but its only when its up to temp, when i just crank it, it doesnt do it

try changing your tranny fluid. use either honda mtf, or gm synchro mesh.

Dawson 09-09-2004 08:49 PM

Re:How to fix synchros
 
ya, i am looking to get my tranny fixed in my teg. Everytime i get to redline and shift it grinds. Is it that hard to rebuild it yourself? Or should i just be looking for a whole new tranny?

Zeusfire69 09-09-2004 09:50 PM

Re:How to fix synchros
 
I AGREE! get the honda tranny fluid...I've known more than a few people that have had shifting issues, and when they change the oil to the honda stuff all of there problems were gone..

Bizzar 09-09-2004 10:50 PM

Re:How to fix synchros
 
There is a cheap fix that works damn good. I tried it and WOW my pos ebay tranny that had ------- water in it now shifts like brand spankin new at any rpm. I got this tip from a veteran of the drag racing world. It involves a ton of work but cost next to nothing (your time thats about it) Here goes...

Completely dissasemble your tranny. Purchase new syncro rings and just the rings. You do not need syncros or hubs. Get yourself a small triangle shaped file and have a seat. Start to gently file the rounded edge "tips" of the syncros and hubs. Sure theres a shitload of work going over every tooth but basicaly you reshape them just a tad. Nothing too extreme just to bring back a somewhat point to the grooves. Re-assemble and fill her up with GM syncromesh. Do NOT get the friction modified ----. Trust me on this it works!!

ORiG1NaLKhMeRsTA 09-10-2004 02:03 PM

Re:How to fix synchros
 
^^^ wow, i wanna try that synchro fixing thingy. but the only problem is i never took the gear box off before and i dont know how the synchros look like, any pix guys? i have a y8 tranny that grinds in 2nd really bad, cant get it into gear so its 1st to 3rd!

projekteg 09-10-2004 02:05 PM

Re:How to fix synchros
 

Originally Posted by ORiG1NaLKhMeRsTA
^^^ wow, i wanna try that synchro fixing thingy. but the only problem is i never took the gear box off before and i dont know how the synchros look like, any pix guys? i have a y8 tranny that grinds in 2nd really bad, cant get it into gear so its 1st to 3rd!

just try changing your mtf first ;)

ORiG1NaLKhMeRsTA 09-10-2004 02:19 PM

Re:How to fix synchros
 

just try changing your mtf first
well the tranny is already out and chillin' in my backyard so i mine as well crack it open.

turbo dave 07-30-2007 05:44 AM

Re:How to fix synchros
 

Originally Posted by Bizzar
There is a cheap fix that works damn good. I tried it and WOW my pos ebay tranny that had ------- water in it now shifts like brand spankin new at any rpm. I got this tip from a veteran of the drag racing world. It involves a ton of work but cost next to nothing (your time thats about it) Here goes...

Completely dissasemble your tranny. Purchase new syncro rings and just the rings. You do not need syncros or hubs. Get yourself a small triangle shaped file and have a seat. Start to gently file the rounded edge "tips" of the syncros and hubs. Sure theres a shitload of work going over every tooth but basicaly you reshape them just a tad. Nothing too extreme just to bring back a somewhat point to the grooves. Re-assemble and fill her up with GM syncromesh. Do NOT get the friction modified ----. Trust me on this it works!!


could anyone tell me more about this, because i am going to do it?

Bone1 07-30-2007 05:50 AM

Re: How to fix synchros
 
kill yourself?

D sync's only go bad after everything else is trashed.

timbolandd 07-30-2007 06:50 AM

Re: How to fix synchros
 
the gm syncro mesh works great but you have to get friction modified

turbo dave 07-30-2007 01:02 PM

Re: How to fix synchros
 

Originally Posted by Mista Bone
kill yourself?

D sync's only go bad after everything else is trashed.


im running the ls tranny...


im using the syncromesh and it still scrapes in 3rd.


Bone1 07-30-2007 05:22 PM

Re: How to fix synchros
 
start saving your lunch money

JDMFantasy2K 07-30-2007 09:33 PM

Re: How to fix synchros
 
GM Synchromesh Friction modified is the one you want. ---- works miracles. Granted it's no fix but it's one mother fucker of a bandaid.

stenseltizm 07-31-2007 12:19 AM

Re: How to fix synchros
 
checkin the date and I thought pork and polish was back again.

brettsb16a2 07-31-2007 12:43 AM

Re: How to fix synchros
 
I worked at a few gm dealers and syncromesh works great but so does ATF. MM6- the six speed trans in the trans am, camero, and corvett all use Dexron ATF. With the tight clearances in honda trans, maybe some ATF would aid, it would for sure clean up any crap stuck in the syncros and bearings, rings, whatever. Maybe run some ATF for a week then drain it and ad syncromesh. I have a 2000 si and my tranny has those shifting issues, when the bastard was under warranty the mf'ers wouldn't fix the crap even though there was a bullitin on it. I know they have some syncro issues, especially in my si tranny. I think the bullitin said to replace all the ones that grind. Just venting now, sorry!! :6

brettsb16a2 07-31-2007 12:52 AM

Re: How to fix synchros
 
Also, if you think going into a standard trans is easy and repairng, good luck, make sure you keep an eye on which way the syncros go back, shift forks, snap rings, clearences, this isn't an everyday joe job, its time consuming and if you don't have the tools, patients and some skillz, you will be one pissed off puppy when you put that sob back in your car. I would do a automatic over a standard any day of the week!!

Bizzar 07-31-2007 02:25 AM

Re: How to fix synchros
 

Originally Posted by brettsb16a2
Also, if you think going into a standard trans is easy and repairng, good luck, make sure you keep an eye on which way the syncros go back, shift forks, snap rings, clearences, this isn't an everyday joe job, its time consuming and if you don't have the tools, patients and some skillz, you will be one pissed off puppy when you put that sob back in your car. I would do a automatic over a standard any day of the week!!

Your nuts! Theres no seals, pistons, valve bodies, clutch packs or teflon to deal with. I'll mess with a manual anyday. walk in the park.

turbo dave 07-31-2007 03:28 AM

Re: How to fix synchros
 
i can do anything mechanical, i just need to know how, and what tools. im sure its somewhere on the internet, as i havent looked but briefly.

Bone1 07-31-2007 04:15 AM

Re: How to fix synchros
 
ATF in a Honda tranny = death to plastic bearing cages, like Redline MTL does.


turbo dave, I've never failed to provide info on tools needed.........yes it sometimes hurts me as a business getting started.

If you can build a motor, Honda manual trannys are a cake wake.

brettsb16a2 07-31-2007 05:19 PM

Re: How to fix synchros
 
There are plastic caged bearing in the MM6, huh, weird, never seen them get trashed.

Bone1 08-01-2007 03:43 AM

Re: How to fix synchros
 
I used to see alot of dissolved plastic cages, ever single one was running Redline MTL.

Since I haven't seen anyone running it lately, alost less bearing issues :)

Now to kick Autozone's ass, I believe their new puter program suggests 75w90 gear oil!!!!!!

HMTguy 08-01-2007 03:50 AM

Re: How to fix synchros
 

Originally Posted by Mista Bone
Now to kick Autozone's ass, I believe their new puter program suggests 75w90 gear oil!!!!!!

That is a lawsuit waiting to happen

Bone1 08-01-2007 04:15 AM

Re: How to fix synchros
 
lawsuit already started against an Advance Auto.......

Guy walked in and asked for fluid and filter for a automatic Honda, they sold him three quarts of ATF and the filter, printed off insturctions on how to change it.

he stopped after not being able to get the center section off the tranny.

Slo_crx1 08-01-2007 04:22 AM

Re: How to fix synchros
 

Originally Posted by Mista Bone
lawsuit already started against an Advance Auto.......

Guy walked in and asked for fluid and filter for a automatic Honda, they sold him three quarts of ATF and the filter, printed off insturctions on how to change it.

he stopped after not being able to get the center section off the tranny.

Haha...why does that not surprise me :P These days when I need a part from them I look it up on their site first and just hand them the part number...alot easier then standing there trying to argue with the idiots about what is really in the car.

Bone1 08-01-2007 04:45 AM

Re: How to fix synchros
 
when they argue, take the keyboard away and look up your owns parts, point to the part number you want.

Works at my local Honda, I had my full order entered, knew what warehouses the parts were coming from......and the parts manager walks by......"Hey Clint, this is the self serve line right?"

BTW jago, I'm quite sober tonight, but the shakes SUCK!

ososlohatch 08-01-2007 10:01 PM

Re: How to fix synchros
 
my third gear has grinded for 3-4 years and my car doesnt like to go into fourth unless im mashing on it ... my tranny loves me

erik_m_o 08-02-2007 11:44 PM

Re: How to fix synchros
 
i'm going to get some GM syncomesh for when i get my engine back. can u only get that at GM dealers?

Bone1 08-02-2007 11:49 PM

Re: How to fix synchros
 
Sold only at Mugen dealerships, must be overnighted from Japan

turbo dave 08-03-2007 01:38 AM

Re: How to fix synchros
 

Originally Posted by Mista Bone
Sold only at Mugen dealerships, must be overnighted from Japan

haha or any japanese autozone

i have yet to find honda MTF in any retail store


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