Headgasket now, ARPs later?
 

Since I'm low on cash, I was thinking of just installing the headgasket now and seeing if it will hold fine under boost with the stock head bolts. If the head ends up lifting because I reused the stock bolts, is it easy to just install the ARPs without taking the head off?

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You need to replace the head gasket if you untorque the head.

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just do a hg now with the stock bolts, give em 5 extra lb-ft.

later when you wanna do the ARP's, hold off until you can toss an extra $30 down on a headgasket. Get the y7/y8 gasket from slhondaparts.com or hondaautomotiveparts.com and i think they end up being right about $30 shipped.

why? beau constantly keeps re-using the one on his b16, i think like 5 times now, riskay.

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As long as the head doesn't move when the head bolts are removed it should be ok to reuse HG. It's just much easier to do it all now.

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do it right the first time. why waste the money and time later.

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All of the headgaskets on those sites are like $150, where are you seeing them for $30? Hook me up I'm broke! And I was looking up a 98 Civic EX, there are 2 headgaskets listed. Which one do I want?

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go to ur dealer and get the pm6 package deal but make sure you get the metal one

its 4 layers 8)

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http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...R+HEAD+%282%29
Part Number 6 on that page
OR Honda Part Number: 12251-P2J-004

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Thanks, I kept looking under the "gasket kit" category and not the cylinder head category.

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One more question, and I know this has been asked before but I haven't seen a definite answer yet.

What the hell is the difference between the Z6 and Y8 headgaskets? Obviously the Y8 one is about $20 cheaper, but they are both MLS, are they not?

Will I encounter any problems trying to save a few pennies by buying the Y8 gasket?

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do it right the first time and save some trouble the coz is not just the part itself, think about towning and stuff.
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Z6 and y8 gasket are exactly the same.( i don`t care what ppl think, LOL i`ve bought both from HONDA) they are about 40 bucks max at any part store.

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I really can't afford the ARPs now, I think I'm just gonna get the Y8 gasket and reuse the stock headbolts and torque em down a bit tighter. Anybody done this before with no problems? I don't need it to last forever.

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z6 and y7/y8 headgaskets are exactly the same, just different part #'s

both are metal 3 layers, both are the same thickness.

y8 had an option somewhere for a 2-layer, I've never found or seen one tho.

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Sounds good. Now I'm only gonna buy the gasket and go to town!

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I'll get ARP's... eventually... but in the mean time... My reused bolts r good.

I copper sprayed the gasket too.

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Y8 never had a option for 2 layer, its just easier to take the Y8 gaskets to make it a 2 layer apart opposed to the z6's.

Y8's a cheaper gasket, definatly go for it. Headstuds are nice to have, but if your on a budget, spray your head gasket with Copper Gasket spray on both sides, and overtorque your head 5-10lbs. I'm using a composite gasket on my ZC with copper spray on stock headbolts boosting around 21-22psi so far no problems.

Alot of the problem people get with D-series they think their heads are lifting and blowing out headgaskets, when normally its the sleeves are shifting and blowing the gasket out. Just keep that in mind, its incredilby easy to post/pin a block you should definatly consider it.

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Thanks for your input Jeff. That is exactly what I planned on doing, copper spraying it and overtorqueing the bolts 5 lbs. Goin 10 over is ok? I'd feel better if I did that.

Anyways, this block supposedly has a blockguard so I really hope it's just a problem with the headgasket. The car runs fine N/A, but when I boost is when it starts to overheat and you can see where coolant has spilled out just above the engine code where the block/head meet.

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I agree with this^^^

But I also have to agree with this ideology more^^^ ;)

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well you'll know for sure if its in there when you pull the head eh? O0

that explains the 2 layer option on all the compression calculator software floating around.

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with the head off use a large straight edge and feeler gauge to measure any warpage.
the manuals will have the specs you need to be under.

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Exactly what I'm gonna do. I just hope the deck is flat because I sure as hell don't wanna pull the engine again right now. If the head needs machining, I can live with that.

Anyone know a good place to get a straightedge? I already have flat feeler gauges.

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----, a machinist straight edge is like 40 bucks for a cheap one