GSR OIL SQUIRTERS IN A LS BLOCK. PICS
 

So a few weeks ago I was on the freeway and playing around if a bemmer and after a couple hard pulls my coolant temp was pinned. I pulled over and let in cool down for a while; started it back up and drove home. I had to pull over every mile or two because of the overheating. My first thought was the headgasket. It was night so I couldn't really tell if it was smoking, but it had a burn coolant smell. Pulled the head off and found a crack in the #3 cylinder. ----!!! The next day I pulled the motor and disassembled it. All the internals were good, so I started looking for a new block. As most of you know finding a good GSR block is pretty tough and the ones you do find are spendy. I decided to go the route of a LS block and make some mods to meet my liking. One of which will be a gsr oil squirter install. Again, as most of you know b-series vtec blocks came from honda with oil squirters at top of the main web that shot oil at the bottom of the piston. Non-vtec b-series block do not have these. I did a little searching on the web and found the most people feel that installing squirter in a non-vtec block would require tons of money and a bunch of machine work. So I decided to do a write-up on my LS oil squirter install. I'm sure there a different and/or better ways, but this was mine.

Note: Not everyone agrees that oil squirters are necessary in an engine. Some say they lube the cylinders and pins, and cool the piston. Others say its not worth it, they don't do that much of a difference or hurt oil pressure. Personally I like and concept of them, I've never had a issue with oil pressure, and like the "every little bit helps" motto, so they're going in. 100% personally preference.

Parts List:
-4 OEM Honda oil squiters and bolts
-4 brass washers
-8mm x 0.75 pitch tap
-red loc-tite

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Pic of my car for starters

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Here's the crack in #3. Could probably sleeve it, but I'm too cheap

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These are the oil squirters in a GSR block. Honda has them on a raised surface with a second small hole to keep them from spinning.

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B18B non-vtec LS bare block from the junkyard. $200 (came as a short block)

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The LS block has the same oil passage as the GSR, but there are no raised surfaces for the squirters. Come off the main web about ½” and drill a 7mm hole into the oil passage. Make sure you drill straight down to give the squirters the best chance to seat properly later.

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After the holes are drilled you will need to grind the top of the passage to make a flat surface. This will allow the squirters to seat and seal. Grind just enough to give yourself a flat ring around the hole. The less material you remove, the more material you can thread later.

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All four holes drilled and ground flat.

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This was the only special tool I had to buy. It’s hard to find because of the size. I ordered mine from my snap-on guy and it took about a week to get. It’s a 8mm x 0.75 ultra fine pitch tap. This is the thread of stock Honda oil squirter bolts. Special order + snap-on = $20.

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Tap the holes with a tap driver and extension. Obviously a t-handle won’t fit.

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Oil squirters out of my old GSR. Notice the tab on it that is used to keep it from spinning.

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Grind the tab off to give yourself a flat surface on the bottom of the squirter. Because I ground the oil passage flat only where the squirter mounts there is no way for it to spin or move then the bolt is tight. Plus, it must be removed to allow the brass washer to sit down flat.

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Another mod to the squirter is to bend it a little. Because the LS block doesn’t have that raised seat like the GSR does the tube needs to be bent straight and then point upward at the end. Just putting it in a vise will straighten the tube, then just bend the tip with some pliers.

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#14 small brass washers from home depot ($1.25). I decided to use brass because its soft enough that it will have a slight crush that will help seal between the block and squirter.

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The hole is around 7mm, so they will need to be drilled with a 8mm drill bit. Then just rub them against a fine file with your finger to debur and smooth them.

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The washer will seal the place in the squirter and direct oil to the tube.

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Clean all the passages really well. I used some brake clean and then ran the garden hose through it for quit awhile. Put a small amount of loc-tite on the threads and screw them in. Make sure you don’t over tighten the bolts and strip the threads. All done! Depending on how well you are at grinding the block will determine how well the squirters will seal. If they leak a little bit it’s ok. It won’t be enough to drop oil pressure and it will just drip back into the pan. For under $25 and no machining you can put vtec oil squirters in a non-vtec block.

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you are garbage

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???

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Not bad

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Most guys defeat them as they are kinda unnecessary and can hurt oil pressure.

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I like your car and your write up knowledgabilities, but I hate the rest.

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dude i cant beileve u paid 200 for a jy block lol

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I respect it for being a home made job but the oil squirters are kind of pointless. My ls/vtec runs fine without them.

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yeah just seems like too much work for that little piece of mind, plus the whole "what if the drill bit broke in the block" or something stupid and you ---- the block. But i guess without pioneers there'd be no HMT. But you should still go back to Honda Tech :1

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All that and if you didn't have that piece of ---- block gaurd in your first block you would have been fine. Oil squirters can like my -------, pointless with real pistons.

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my ls cracked in the same exact spot

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Always shooting sludge...

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This doesn't even make sense.. why would a block guard factor in to cracking a sleeve?

I give you props on the homemade squirters. They seem like they could help reduce ring wear, but most turbo cars wont last long enough to worry about worn rings ;D

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heat and uneven pressure = cracking

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I ran that engine with the block gaurd for over 20,000 miles. The result of the crack was me driving home while the headgasket was blown and the car overheating.

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doubtful

more likely when your ---- started overheating because of the crack and it done burnt up all your water

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dude.. holy ----..
I cracked up pretty hard when I read "done burnt up all your water" and looked at your avatar.. ;D

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I'll run train on your moms ass for 20,000 miles if you dont stop being stupid :1

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to each is there own i guess

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Well I did. I've had the car done since last july and it was my daily driver. I made alot of trips from bellevue to the tri-cities before I moved over here. It's about 360mile one way and it adds up quick. I did have a blown headgasket. You could see a big clean spot from where the water was passing from the jacket the cylinder. I just assumed that the gasket came before the crack and the overheating and coolant in the cylinder caused it.

Yeah, if you snap a tap off in aluminium then you probably don't have the brains to work on the engine in the first place. Taps have their place, but they're not for everyone.

I'm glad I had that block gaurd in there. Without it, that crack would have broken open, stuck the piston, bend/broke the rod, and ---- up my gsr crank. I would have been on the side of the road waiting for a tow truck needing a new block and all new internals. That gaurd probably saved me $1000. I'll stick with the block gaurd!

I know its high for a LS short block, but not too bad sense it came complete. I did a quick bunch of calls to buddies, checked craigslist, and then called the junkyard. No time to wait forthe smokin deal.

Thanks for the comments. I know its not for everyone, but I figured it was something different. Maybe show someone out there the "how-to" if they have a LS block, want squirter and don't want to be raped by the machine shop.

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who cares, good writeup if it's actually yours

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fill the block run a oem mls hg

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Good writeup, although a lot of people say oil squirters don't do ----, way to think outside the box.

Next time use brass soft jaws on your vice!!!!!

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Unlikley in an aluminum block, unless you really screw something up or are using a fucked up toolbit.

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not for me but good write up. It takes alot of time to stop and take pics while you are puting ---- together. I have about 4 write ups that I have 1/2 the pics i wanted because I get in a hurry.

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You don't think it's mine ??? How would you like me to prove it? What pic would you like to see?


Thanks for all the comments. The next write-up will be gsr rods on a LS crank in a LS block (I know the rods are different widths, so don't tell me it won't work). LS displacement w/ GSR rod ratio! Best of both worlds! Stay tuned.

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its already been done, your machinist just has to know his ---- thats all, should cost like maybe 150-250 at the most to have the work done, ill see if i can find the write up i saw like a year ago and post a link for you

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$150-$250?!?! The whole point is to do it yourself for cheap without involving a machine shop.

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good job. do a write up for the ls/vtec even though it can be found everywhere.
when you going to get it running?

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That'd be a huge wast of money. This is definitely doable for someone with tools doing their own engine build.

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ok then go ---- your self i give you a compliment and offer to help find a link for your future project and you then critizes me cause you think its to much

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I wasn't critizing you. I just wanted to show a route that can be done in someones garage with basic tools. Iid like to see the link. Sorry you took it worry.

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Thanks. I'll keep taking pics and try to put a write-up together. Should be alittle abnormal because of my oil squirters and I'm gonna try to make my own internal oil passage to feed the vtec head. Most LS/vtec setups run an external feed line, but I like trying something new. Car should be running in the next couple weeks.

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You are such a ------- tool bag.

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Nice write up. On a side note if I mail you my ecu with a chip kit will you solder it for me?

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i like your write up style.. lots of pics.. very detailed.. please do a lsvtec write up..

thanks.

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Hella gangsta if u can grind down your own rods and get em back on the piston wit out crackin a piston or grindn the rod uneven. good setup tho i ran it in my crx 4 2 years no probs till it got jacked

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Hey. I'll text you my address over here.