Getting power from a d series
 

I know its funny to see power and d series in the same sentence, but.....turbo is not an option for me anymore, so are their some ways to get good power increases out of my d16y7. I have a cheasy intake and exhaust which are cool I guess, but what else can I do? Is a mini me swap worth it, or any tuning or timing tricks, bigger injectors? ANy of that stuff get decent results. I have 106, I would like at least 130's if possible or better. Just to be able to hang with the mini vans if nothing else.

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umm trying to squeeze hp out of a d16 n/a is like a one legged man in a foot race, its pointless and ull always lose

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Thats what I've heard, but a swap is out and I just need a bit more for sanity sake. I cant stand having that car that looks fast but sucks. Any suggestions.

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sell it and buy something a little quicker, like a prelude si, a gsr or a turbo dsm.

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Thats always an option I guess. I just have grown fond of my little civic. And I havent had it too long. Just sad that it takes so much to get them moving. Is a mini me swap worth it, bang for the buck wise

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extremely

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Thats the route I'm taking with my little D too. What inspection station is going to notice the difference between the head that came off your origional engine, or a Vtec honda head? Probably not many. SO I say go for it, especially if your current engine is DPFI. Upgrade that biatch to MPFI. ;)

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I'm not sure what dpfi and mpfi stand for. I have a d16y7 in a 96 dx sedan. How much does a mini me cost. I guess it will be the vtec head, ecu, wire harness... what else will I need. And is it a suck to perform the change or not too bad.

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MPFI is multi point fuel injection and DPFI is dual point fuel injection... Never mind what I said. Lol I didn't know we were talking 96 yr. car. You've already got MPFI. A mini me swap isn't too bad. You'll want to stay OBD1 so getting a head off of like a d16z6 should be a pretty basic install.

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he is obd2 ;)

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yeah 96 is obd2. Which head do I want to shoot for then,

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z6 or y8 hahahyour only 2 choices

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y8 is odb2, so that would be the easiest imo

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my whole turbo kit cost me about 500 bux. i had most of the parts but everything else i got at my local junkyard for cheap!!!! try looking for the parts you need and see what you come up with. my friend bought a turbo from a 1g eclispe for 40 bux. works great. i mean i got all the nessacry things for cheap. injectors, hf manifold, full mpfi swap for 50 bux, and the only thing i spent the most money on was the safc and and exhaust.

i dont know, but try and see what you can come up with

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I agree turbo is the way to go. Unfortunately, the are tought to get passed by california smog inspections, so I am going to have to pass on a turbo. How much is a fair price for a y8 and the necessary wiring a crap for a non vtec to vtec conversion?

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I got my z6 head and intake for $100. I still need a distributor and ecu, but I figure total it will come to about 150 maybe a bit more. I'm staying OBD0, so the wiring will be pretty basic for me also. Oh yeah, hehe, I forgot that 96 was OBD2 ;)

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thats pretty cheap. Is it a reliable setup

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nitrous or turbo are about it on a d, and unless its fully built and 15+psi its still gonna be slow, i built my kit for under 2g, its not that expensive, sell your rims and get a turbo kit. it's 100% worth it.

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if you are worried about smog inspection etc....

forget about messing with the engine unless you plan on doing another "re-swap" or "re-mod" before getting your car smogged. I say go with a nitrous kit you'll be happy with it, and you wont be continuously abusing it and pushing it to its limit on a daily basis. Plus before inspection, its easy to take out the "brain" and solenoids, etc...

d16 with 55 shot of nitrous -> 15 second run at the track which would give an stock integra a run for its money

Just my $0.02

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um.. my d16a6 crx si runs 15.5's without NOS. you can do an engine swap and stay legal down there. It's a Pain in the ass but aslong as you get a 96+ motor w/ its ecu and proper emissions crap you can get a legalized swap. I'd say go for a b18b for more punch with little wiring changes.

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a b18b. I dont know much about that motor. HOw much PUNCH are we looking at and how much does it cost. I dont think any swap is going to be in budget. Thank you for your help though.

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were talkin like 140hp and 118 ftlbs of torque or so for like 2000 bucks...yuk, id get the spray for 500

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yeah, that's bit much. I dont understand alot of the swap guys. b16, b16, b16....3g's later.... a $700 HMT dx beats you. No offence to b16 guys, I jsut dont have that kinda money

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the b has more potential, thats why (plus they arent 3k)

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im gonna do a b18c1 swap for around 3k, that includes performance clutch, flywheel, mounts, linkage, and everything to swap my turbo kit over to it.

I dont think any dx will beat a b18c1 at 12psi from a t3/t04e in a crx.

you just cant get that kind of power from a dseries unless its fully built and sleeved or at least pinned.

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just look around and u MIGHT found the right person to get u pass smog.

or the N/A way...i would..
get a d16y8 head, mill it.port it..
go to www.crower.com, grab some valve springs and stage 3 race cam. with I/H/E..(NO ZEX :P)
oh well the out come is that u are not passing smog still..
yea, i tried.

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Build the top end and rev to 9k, it wont be too too fast, but hey, you'll be revving to 9k.

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Get the damn turbo kit, and only smog your car in Compton. You will always be able to pay someone to smog your car. Don't let the socialists run your life. Turbo, Turbo, turbo!

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and ---- the po-lice

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here's my suggestion, take it however you want.
of course start out with the standard i/h/e (which you have), then turn the fuel pressure up a bit to compensate for the greater airflow (i use the b&m commandflo), next a clutch/flywheel (i use a lightweight flywheel, but some people don't like them in traffic. so that's your choice), then if that's still not enuf, swap to a lower geared tranny. i'm not sure if the 96 dx and ex trannys are the same, but if not, see about locating an ex. shorter gears will definitely give you an advantage on quick minivan races.

i know this is all basic stuff, but's that's why it's the basic stuff. that's where you start, then if that isn't enough you have to look at other options.

btw-my d16a6 w/ i/h/e, cf clutch, UR flywheel, crane ign, Quaife, B&M, stock internals, 17" wheels, WW body kit, and full interior is good for 10.0 1/8 mile times. with the 60 shot, 9.4-9.5.

hope this helps.