f22b vs h22a1
 

I was wondering what would be the better motor to swap in my 91 accord if im going to go turbo. i was kinda of leaning towards the f22b because of price, im wondering if i went with the f22b would it be a good to build and run N/A

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If you got the money and time thats a no brainer. H22 for sure. Its a little bit heavier but worth the extra grunt. and it will last alot longer and probably give better hp #s

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Definitely go for a JDM H22A motor, get the mid 90s model because I believe they were all closed deck (so you won't need to worry about sleeving the block).

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Is the f22b a pretty good motor to turbo, i can get one for a grand with ecu, tranny, and wire harness

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its not the fact that its cheap think most companys don't make parts for f series honda motors . What does that tell you ::)

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just turbo the f and save cash for the h22a. when your ready for the h22a youll already have all the parts to boost the h22a.

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Are the manifolds the same for the H/F series?

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boost the f22 from what i hear there strong motors besides the h22 isnt ideal for boost ive got a few freinds that blew there h22s and are gonna go f22 now and wish they never bought the h22s.

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The closed deck H22s were a much better platform then any other Honda engine for boosting. If it wasn't such a pain in the ass, thats the route I would have gone in my car.

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http://www.seattlersx.com/gallery/135/228/107_0721.jpg
Here's my new motor, and yes they are Solid deck

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Yeah ---- doing the f22b get that engine :) You just replace the internals and you got a hell of a boost builder. Plus it yields some of the best honda performance of any engine.

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well i'll keep you guys updated, right now I'm just working on the internals. Sucks though because if you change the pistons you HAVE to get the blocked sleeved$$$$. If your just going to run a low amount of boost I wouldn't really build it, unless of course your me and love to spend all your money on your cars ::)

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Absolutely :P I am still waiting to get my new block and stuff in :)

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y does it have to be sleeved?

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the way I understand it to be is that the factory sleeves are aluminum and the factory pistons are coated over the aluminum so it works just fine. But when you upgrade the pistons, there is nothing to coat them with and therefore aluminum sleeves don't mix with aluminum pistons. However, I'm hoping there is going to be a better way around this because I think you can just do some type of cheap sleeve job. Jeff is checking this out for me, I'll let you know what he somes up with ;D

If anyone has any helpful info on this, please don't be shy let me know!!!

Leia

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wow a chick that talks motors, thats tight :P. keep us updated

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Only thing I can do is recommend dh-racing.com it won't be cheap but it will be a professional job :)

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Much appreciated!

for more pic's of my motor and updates, just visit my gallery!

http://www.seattlersx.com/mygallery....r=228&offset=6

you'll have to scroll through to see all the motor pics thus far!

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How much boost are you looking at running Princess?

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about 10 lbs, even though it will be built to run more. I want it to be somewhat reliable with the option to run more if and when I want! This will be my first car that's turbo, even though I have driven both Jeff's and Beaus boosted CRX's! So I want to kind of take it slow, I'm a puss 8)

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haha yeah, don't forget to go water injection ::) (hehe official Water Injection spokesman).

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Thanks for the advice. i think at first im going to just run n/a then save for internals and turbo.

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I think you'll be alot better off with the H22A then. You're gonna find ALOT of parts available for that motor vs. the F22.

Try nitrous? That block should be good for a good shot :)

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idk how much work it is to run the extra lines for the vtech. and i kinda of wanted to stay with the f22b series. all my exhaust would hook up to that motor idk if it would hook up to the h22 block or not, plus the h22 is like 1000 more than the f22b. i was thinking if the h23 here is the same motor in japan as the f22b than the aftermarket cams and stuff would fit i would think.

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I know the motors are extremely similar, you wouldn't have to worry about hooking up VTEC if you bought the whole motor, it will already be set up. The ECU controls it. However you might have to add in a wire for the VTEC solenoid to the ECU (there might be some other things to add) but I am sure its an easy swap because I know the chasis is extremely similar between the Accords and Preludes.

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Yeah that would be a good way to go, my friend brole 11's with a stock motor and a 75 shot! Do it!!!!

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what year h22 is that? i know that not all of them came closed deck. ???

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mine is jdm h22a obd1, but it only has 30k

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Its like the 92-95 H22As

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only the 1st gen h22 came closed deck. and you HAVE to resleeve when u change the pistons. it has something to do with the sleeves. if u dont sleeve its gonna smoke like a mofo. i think its the material that the sleeve is made out of its not the same as the b and d series stuff. my cousin told me. i forgot. ill ask him and let u guys know

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That makes sense, not to mention that they're probably not meant for flexing. But I gurantee that an h22a motor in a light ass civic hatchback, is like throwing a big block in a focus :P

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don't worry about the sleeves, the f-series has iron sleeves and you have to be a real ------- to break one. I have never seen one go (18psi... ring lands went, but not rods or sleeves)... anyone who sleeves an accord motor should do some research... GO WITH UR STOCK MOTOR!!! if anything, invest in a better/higher geared tranny & clutch... and pistons/rods... you'll be able to boost over 20psi safely with that setup... i'll take 1.3bar over an h22 w/ 10psi anyday