bipedbear

alright im finishing my build right now and i need to figure out what ecu i need to work this

its an LS/vtec with a b16a head, going to be running dsm 450's with an afc

now, what ecu can i run *WITHOUT BEING CHIPPED* to get this to work, thanks

i was thinking p28/p30 but wasnt sure

Minor Threat

I ASSume OBD1, and then I would say P28 or P72, depending on if you want the butteflies in the intake to work, even though they're bullshit and useless.

Why so opposed to getting it chipped and doing it right?

bipedbear

cause i honestly dont understand how to do it, ive read up on in countless times and still dont understand it

Ravage70

have someone like minor threat chip you an ecu then buy a burner and a wideband and you good to go

88crxSi

chipped ecu w/ a ITR or GSR map should fit the bill.

btw.. why use 450's on NA?

0b00st0

He's using a B16 head so that manifold wouldn't be on there anyway

Minor Threat is right, just get a P28/P30/P72 or even a non-vtec ecu and get it done right. The only stock ecu that would work with your setup would be a P30 or P72, since they would have the right rev limit and such, but I would go with the P30 since the timing will more correct for the head you are using and since you are using 450's with an AFC anyway you won't have to worry about the P30 running too lean. You would need to connect the knock sensor however and that means some work to put it on a LS block.

For you , you should just sell the AFC and the DSM's and get a P28 chipped with a GSR map and use stock 240's.

88crxSi

thats what i would do. if you use Crome or whatnot you can disable the knock cant you?

Minor Threat

Yup, or you can even add knock detection onto the board if you *really* think you need it.

Guy-Fast

Chipped p28. b16a bin without alot of timing taken out to balance the hack

B16Drag

just order a dang ecu from xenoncron.com or someone who is selling the chipped ecu and just telll those fools to put a p30 ecu bin on it. Simple as ABC. Dont bother with getting an SAFC blah blah blah.. just make sure htey know you got four-fiddy's!