HomemadeTurbo - DIY Turbo Forum

HomemadeTurbo - DIY Turbo Forum (https://www.homemadeturbo.com/)
-   Hybrid/Tech (https://www.homemadeturbo.com/hybrid-tech-8/)
-   -   D-series valve compatability (https://www.homemadeturbo.com/hybrid-tech-8/d-series-valve-compatability-66476/)

Minor Threat 08-09-2006 01:16 PM

D-series valve compatability
 
I figure HMT is probably the best place to post this, I would search but I can't find any good terms to use.

I'm wondering if it's worth the time/money and possible machine work to retrofit some larger OEM D-series valves into my B7/A6 head. IIRC both the Z6 and Y7 have larger valves, and I have a spare Z6 head lying around.

If anyone can give me pointers, it'd be much appreciated, if it's too much work, I'm just gonna skip it for now.

ProzacOverdose 08-09-2006 02:12 PM

Re: D-series valve compatability
 
Get a valve angle job.

Bone1 08-09-2006 11:05 PM

Re: D-series valve compatability
 
the valve stems are the wrong length, and with stock bore, the smaller valves flow better.

If you were to go to a 78mm bore/sleeve, you could step up to 1mm larger valves.

Minor Threat 08-10-2006 01:48 AM

Re: D-series valve compatability
 
Why the difference in valve size between engines with the same bore then, just curious?

Foowee 08-10-2006 02:08 AM

Re: D-series valve compatability
 

Originally Posted by Minor Threat
Why the difference in valve size between engines with the same bore then, just curious?

Just a guess, but I'm going to go out on a limb and assume the larger diameter valve would work with a higher lift cam. Causing a sort of dynamic deshrouding...

I don't know the lift of a z6/y7 vs. b7/a6 off the top of my head. Just a thought...

Tom-Guy 08-10-2006 12:12 PM

Re: D-series valve compatability
 
Hrm. It's only a .5mm difference in size, but I guess it is a tiny bore.


Originally Posted by ProzacOverdose
Get a valve angle job.

Yup.

Minor Threat 08-10-2006 12:54 PM

Re: D-series valve compatability
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Hrm. It's only a .5mm difference in size, but I guess it is a tiny bore.

Yup.

Worth it if I'm still going to run stock valves due to the too long stem length?

Tom-Guy 08-10-2006 02:22 PM

Re: D-series valve compatability
 
Eh?

Minor Threat 08-10-2006 02:30 PM

Re: D-series valve compatability
 
Should I bother getting a valve angle job done?

Tom-Guy 08-10-2006 02:44 PM

Re: D-series valve compatability
 
Those pimpshit Big Name valvejobs are just moving the seat radius outward a hair, as much as they can without sucking the valve back into the head under load, and blending the bowl a little. Thusly, unported LS flows as well as stock B16/GSR.

robus 08-15-2006 03:20 PM

Re: D-series valve compatability
 

Originally Posted by Mista Bone
the valve stems are the wrong length, and with stock bore, the smaller valves flow better.

If you were to go to a 78mm bore/sleeve, you could step up to 1mm larger valves.

or also if he has a high lift cam or goes FI...

Slo_crx1 08-15-2006 05:52 PM

Re: D-series valve compatability
 
I know the valve stems themselves are a hair longer on the a6's vs. z6's. I've used a6 valves in a z6 head before, the valves aren't alot smaller in diamter than the z6's are, and actually sit pretty well flush with the z6 head once they're seated in. Just had to grind down the tips of the stems to keep them from binding on the z6 springs. I suppose the opposite could be done with them...get an valve angle job and they should fit in nicely. Might even be able to retain the z6 springs in conjuction with a larger cam lobe if you wanted to save on cash. I would imagine you could also have z6 valve seats machined in to make life alot simpler. It all pretty much depends on how much extra cfm you want the head to flow.

Tom-Guy 08-16-2006 02:15 PM

Re: D-series valve compatability
 
It's a .5 mm size difference. You can cut the existing seat to accommodate just fine.

Slo_crx1 08-17-2006 03:07 PM

Re: D-series valve compatability
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
It's a .5 mm size difference. You can cut the existing seat to accommodate just fine.

Or you can do that :-* The machine shop I go to told me they won't cut the seats, only machine out and replace them with the larger ones...they're gay :P

Tom-Guy 08-17-2006 06:25 PM

Re: D-series valve compatability
 
Both have merits, depends on what you're doing.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:04 AM.


© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands