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djay86 06-23-2006 03:22 AM

could a stock b20b block be filled to help stregthen weak sleeves?
 
I need a new longblock soon. My engine is gonna be toast sometime. I am tihnking about buying a b20b from password or maybe finding a cheap b18a longblock and having it rebuilt with aftermarket pistons and rods.

i always hear that people say b20's have weak sleeves. well my question is, by filling the block, could the engine be run like an ls stock? maybe 10-14 pounds without having to worry about cracking a sleeve.

Guy-Fast 06-23-2006 03:53 AM

Re: could a stock b20b block be filled to help stregthen weak sleeves?
 
Have people made tons of power on stock b20's yes

Were the tuned really well yes


450 whp on stock b20 sleeves tuned by harvs like 6 years ago



Tom-Guy 06-23-2006 01:15 PM

Re: could a stock b20b block be filled to help stregthen weak sleeves?
 
Filling it will help, yes, but the siamesed sleeves are going to distort when they start expanding from heat. At what point they stop being reliable I do not know.

With what most places want for a B20, you can usually sling another $100 at the problem and sleeve a free LS shorty.

Guy-Fast 06-23-2006 02:36 PM

Re: could a stock b20b block be filled to help stregthen weak sleeves?
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Filling it will help, yes, but the siamesed sleeves are going to distort when they start expanding from heat. At what point they stop being reliable I do not know.

With what most places want for a B20, you can usually sling another $100 at the problem and sleeve a free LS shorty.

The b20 is tempting because on the west coast alot of the importers basically dump them,.450-550 is market value now

Tom-Guy 06-23-2006 11:33 PM

Re: could a stock b20b block be filled to help stregthen weak sleeves?
 
Okay, $150-200 and a free LS shorty to sleeve, depending on your hookups. I think Chris was given an offer of $675 for the Pinks car's engine. I've been offered $700 a couple times, and GE has a standing offer of $875 *shipped both ways* to a friend of mine.

Call me a wussy. I'd LOVE a cheapass B20 for a NA beater engine. I'd stick to a 1.8 liter bottom end if I had to have a stock sleeve B-series turbo engine. I know it's mostly paranoia, but LS/GSR bottom end is proven good.

bitchasscracker 06-23-2006 11:54 PM

Re: could a stock b20b block be filled to help stregthen weak sleeves?
 

Originally Posted by djay86
I need a new longblock soon. My engine is gonna be toast sometime. I am tihnking about buying a b20b from password or maybe finding a cheap b18a longblock and having it rebuilt with aftermarket pistons and rods.

i always hear that people say b20's have weak sleeves. well my question is, by filling the block, could the engine be run like an ls stock? maybe 10-14 pounds without having to worry about cracking a sleeve.


ohh yea ask hot rex it worked for him












not

Tom-Guy 06-24-2006 12:21 AM

Re: could a stock b20b block be filled to help stregthen weak sleeves?
 
hotrex never cleaned his block... that engine was asking to die.

Guy-Fast 06-24-2006 05:06 AM

Re: could a stock b20b block be filled to help stregthen weak sleeves?
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Okay, $150-200 and a free LS shorty to sleeve, depending on your hookups. I think Chris was given an offer of $675 for the Pinks car's engine. I've been offered $700 a couple times, and GE has a standing offer of $875 *shipped both ways* to a friend of mine.

Call me a wussy. I'd LOVE a cheapass B20 for a NA beater engine. I'd stick to a 1.8 liter bottom end if I had to have a stock sleeve B-series turbo engine. I know it's mostly paranoia, but LS/GSR bottom end is proven good.


My choice would be an 84mm b16a


Just followin what hickman learned like 5 years ago


Big turbo motors just have traction problems


450 whp=mid 9's in a well set up chassis

Tom-Guy 06-24-2006 06:09 AM

Re: could a stock b20b block be filled to help stregthen weak sleeves?
 
Yah. Brian Hunt's mid 10 sec street tire CRX only had 450 and suspension was fairly mundane just fresh.

Guy-Fast 06-25-2006 02:00 AM

Re: could a stock b20b block be filled to help stregthen weak sleeves?
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Yah. Brian Hunt's mid 10 sec street tire CRX only had 450 and suspension was fairly mundane just fresh.

Hickman's car was at 480 whp when he was running 9.60's at LACr 3000 ft elevation, I was lucky enough to drive the car when i was only 20. But he almost died on a street bike and had to re-learn how to read/write and the use of most of his body functions shortly after those times


Car is now sitting in the middle of the desert at rpm products kinda sad car was a piece of history not a pretty one but it was


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