CEL code help in EG
 

hey guys, so I've finally put in my new motor in the ride, tried starting it up, tapped the jumper plug under the glovebox with a wire and made a closed loop. it ended up having the engine light stay on, no flashes and it doesnt turn off. I then thought I messed up with the jumper cable, so i pulled the wire out of it while the engine light was on, and it turned off. Is this a CEL code? would it be a 1, 10 or nothing at all?? I'm not sure what to check after this, but it's almost catching when its turning over. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

D16z6 motor

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if your check engine light dosnt come on, most likely you dont have a cel code.. a solid light with no flashing means your ecu is clear, and there are no stored codes.

what car, whats done to it, what are your symptoms,

do you own a rope???

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here are the things done to it all to specs

exedy stage 1 clutch
new headgasket
Arp headstuds

rest are all new parts ( waterpump, alt, timing belt, etc )
just swapped it in

When i crank it, i hear ( I think one cylinder only) backfiring, I must also let you know that there is a gap in my exhaust ( header - cat ) stupid rusted bolts, neways thats what I hear but not on a consistent basis. What should I check if I am no throwing a code?

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make sure you have your plug wires on corectly. is it starting, and backfiring, or is it just backfirin??? if is starting, is it runing ruff, dose it have a steady idle??

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Naw man, not starting at all! just about to turn then goes back to cranking, and backfiring. I'm 99% sure i have the wiring of plugs correctly.

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Double check and be 100% sure

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Dizzy/wires
Check for spark

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ok.. checked it.. lol damn sakes.. it was wrong.. now.. it does sound like its running rough..

heres the firing order I used
http://henklin.ridethepig.com/Civic/firing_order/

started up no problem. But its running rough kind of like one cylinder is not firing properly or something. i can't really tell cuz the gap in the exhaust is making
it pretty loud but im pretty sure its not that smooth of an idle. What do i check now? would my plug wires be gone??

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check the gap on the plugs, you said it was a new build, so im asuming you used new plugs, wires, dizzy and all.

Did you rebuild the engine to stock specs, or did you change compression, or anything else. are you useing a stock ecu to run it??

makes sure all the plugs on your wire harness are conected in the right location. i had a few of mine messed up when i first started mine.

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If i put the connectors in the wrong location, would it not throw a code?
i bought spark plugs that don't need to be gapped. the wires i used the ones that came with, so I'm thinking it might be that but they look good to me.
Didn't change anything else - everything was to stock specs, I am for the time being, running a P06 ecu but on here people told me it would be " OK " to use it temporarily, but i assumed it would run normal at idle, could that be the problem? I'm still trying to find someone to burn me a p28 map i have a chipped ecu and chip ready to go.

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i know in the helms or the hanes ( not sure which one) they have the firing order wrong. confused the ---- out of me and my friend for a while till we switched it around.

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well its starting. I think i got the firing order right.. if you guys think its the firing order, any one have a FOR SURE idea of the firing order on a Z6??

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Any ideaS??

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themostat ground? :S

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grounded. Tranny grounded, as well as the head grounded by the drivers headlight

anything else?

well i did a test tonight. Thought it was the plug wires becuase I didn't buy them new. had the car running, started pulling wires one at a time. Cyl 1 and 2 both made the car die. Cyl 3 and 4 didnt make any affects. SO, i went and got ym DX wires ( not sure if that will work or if there is a difference?? - can someone clarify that?? ) and 3rd and 4th cylinder STILL did not make any difference. Would it be something else? The spark plugs are for sure brand new and there is no need to gap these, and I know hte injectors are good cuz i used the DX manifold on this cuz some of the sensors were broken.

still need Help!!

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ok well i pulled my spark plugs ( remember they are brand new ) so the cyl 1 and 2 they plugs were filled with blackness. thats cool. now, to cyl 3 and 4, completely Clean! like as if i just put them in there and didn't run the car. So it isn't getting any spark in those cylinders?? I smelled the plugs, n it smells like there is fuel going into the cylinders, so I think im getting air, fuel, and half spark to my knowledge. Any insight on this?? would it still be my plug wires??

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I'm being told its the Coil packs?? Any idea how to check or if i can replace them myself? any how-to's or diagrams?

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There's AN ignition coil in your distributor. Download the shop manual from a sticky at the top of this forum, it tells you how to test it and anything else you need to fix.

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ok got brand new wires. still same problem. Now, as i get out of the car after its run, I get out and touch the door i get a shock... Is there something that I am missing here? A possible ground maybe? how many are there? I count 3 so far, is there something that I'm missing if my car creates a current?? but for sure i get a shock, happened already 3 times in a row.

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Download the shop manual.

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Ok so i got the manual and checking for the diagnosing, I will see if I can do some tests on the Ignition Coil.

I did a test and swapped ignitors ( aka ICM ) which I know works. and changed the cap of the distributor, and so far that isn't the problem.

Question, if/when I try the ignition coil tests, are they interchangeable with 1.5L distributors? ( aka d15b7) if mine is faulty?

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ok guys!! Fixed.. Thanks for all the help!

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Quick question, I am seeing if Vtec is engaging, and after about 4K the engine doesnt feel as powerful as below that point, and the Tach needle starts fluctuating back n forthafter 4kms every time.

I'm not sure if its the Dizzy, I am told its something to do with that

How do I know im hitting vtec?

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what was the problem? wire #3 and 4# were backwards huh? O0