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Anubis_4_99 01-07-2009 10:30 PM

brake caliper sticking
 
well just picked up a 93 civic Si and found out i bought a bucket of worms

but i expected some of it...

anyway, when i bought it i was told there was air in the brake line, so i figured i'd bleed em when i got home and be good.

went to do it today and theres no pad and the outside of the rotor on the driver side :l so i tried to push the piston in the caliper back and reuse, no such luck, piston had come far enough out to dislocate itself.

so bought a new caliper, put the brakes in, bled them, and thought i was good. not so.

now the brand new caliper is dragging very badly on the rotor.

what could cause this? it's only the driver side, its a new caliper, and i bled the brakes

need some help quick! gotta get to work tomorrow morning

Birdley42008 01-07-2009 10:31 PM

Re: brake caliper sticking
 
Kinkd brake line?

Guy-Fast 01-07-2009 10:33 PM

Re: brake caliper sticking
 
new rotorz? what happend with that p28?

Anubis_4_99 01-07-2009 10:44 PM

Re: brake caliper sticking
 
brake line is in good shape and no kinks

old rotors but the passenger side isnt doing it so i dont think that is the problem

btw i had alot of stuff come up and ended up looseing that p28 somewhere, i moved 5 states away and havent seen it yet. sorry about that but at least didnt take any money for it yet.


Anubis_4_99 01-08-2009 12:52 AM

Re: brake caliper sticking
 
well i did some reading around and aparently the slide pins need greased anytime you do something like replace the calipers.

did it and still no change

Smith-02 01-08-2009 01:07 AM

Re: brake caliper sticking
 
check your pads in the clips. if you cant move them by hand theyre too tight

Anubis_4_99 01-08-2009 01:08 AM

Re: brake caliper sticking
 
nope there perfect

Smith-02 01-08-2009 01:23 AM

Re: brake caliper sticking
 
people that do 'hydroboost' conversions on gm based brake systems (power steering pump is used instead of engine vacuum) and people seem to think if they drill the holes in the banjo bolt they'll get better braking, but it over-flows the diaphram and actually sucks the pedal down. is your master cyl/booster good?

Anubis_4_99 01-08-2009 01:30 AM

Re: brake caliper sticking
 
yep that all looks good. no signs of leakage or anything abnormal from the master cyl and the booster is in good shape


con 01-08-2009 01:30 AM

Re: brake caliper sticking
 
pump the pedal a couple times, try to turn rotor by hand, if its tight, crack the bleeder, if a little fluid come out and then its easy to turn the rotor AND ITS ONLY DOING THIS ON ONE SIDE then replace the brake hose. If its both sides then its usally a master or a overadjusted booster rod.

Smith-02 01-08-2009 01:32 AM

Re: brake caliper sticking
 
i had a softline blow on my old f150, i hoseclamped it back together and my caliper locked up, and the ceramic piston collapsed, leaking all my brake fluid out onto the glowing rotor and nearly roasted the truck.

Anubis_4_99 01-08-2009 01:34 AM

Re: brake caliper sticking
 
i've done that several times, and it continues to stick once the brake pedal is released, only on the driver side

but the hose looks like it is in good shape.. just replace the rubber hose connected to the caliper?

for now i am useing the E brake to stop untill i figure it out lol, and makeing sure to stay about 10 car lengths behind anyone

Smith-02 01-08-2009 01:38 AM

Re: brake caliper sticking
 

Originally Posted by Anubis_4_99
i've done that several times, and it continues to stick once the brake pedal is released, only on the driver side

but the hose looks like it is in good shape.. just replace the rubber hose connected to the caliper?

for now i am useing the E brake to stop untill i figure it out lol, and makeing sure to stay about 10 car lengths behind anyone

rubber liners can fail (or rust gets in there) and cause a one way 'flapper' inside the line. sorta like checkvalves in drum brake systems, it keeps low pressure amounts (2-10psi) to keep the shoes from retracting away and causing the 'oh ---- oh ---- oh ---- i lost my brakes' where you pump the pedal a few times to re-engage the shoe/pad. yours is just keeping the fluid from bleeding back in on it's own

stenseltizm 01-08-2009 12:12 PM

Re: brake caliper sticking
 

Originally Posted by Anubis_4_99
anyway, when i bought it i was told there was air in the brake line, so i figured i'd bleed em when i got home and be good.

I laugh my ass off every time I hear someone selling a car and say things like "it just needs this bled, 5 min job max" If it was so ------ easy they'd have done it.
If you take 5 min. to research for common problems that occur in the style of car you are test driving, you can ask key questions and see if the seller is a complete scamming liar to see if you are wasting your breath asking questions. I've walked away from a few boarderline buys becuase that trick showed the seller was an outright liar, if he was just clueless I probably would have bought.

This quote comes to mind

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
First rule of mechanics is listen to what the guy who couldn't fix it says, and then don't trust a word of it because he's the guy who couldn't fix it.

/JD nutriding

But to the point the look of the rubber on the outside of the line has no bearing to the condition of the inside of the line, only can see if it's dryrotted or swollen.
If you listen to what highroller told you, you can diagnose it a little further. ie check to see if the 'check valving' complex is telling you is actually happening.

Anubis_4_99 01-08-2009 04:31 PM

Re: brake caliper sticking
 
i listen but i dont belive most of what people say about a used car.

like i said i expected some problems with it and while more expensive then i was hopeing for it doesnt bother me

its a strong runner and it'll be fixed by the end of the week, better then the explorer i traded for it

also not to be an ass, but i responded to high roller saying i have done exactly that several times, with the same result.

thank you everyone else for your help and info

stenseltizm 01-08-2009 04:43 PM

Re: brake caliper sticking
 
i didn't think you did cause you said it sticks once the pedal is released, not the bleeder.

I wasn't raggin on your buy, just those types of sellers in general piss me off.

con 01-08-2009 05:57 PM

Re: brake caliper sticking
 

Originally Posted by Anubis_4_99


also not to be an ass, but i responded to high roller saying i have done exactly that several times, with the same result.


did you crack the bleeder? did it get free right after?

Anubis_4_99 01-08-2009 10:42 PM

Re: brake caliper sticking
 
yeah after the bleeder is cracked the rotor frees up and i can turn it by hand again

i called around and they want $40 for that hose

anyone know what others may interchange? maybe 90-93 integra?

and no worries stenseltizm. i sometimes take people at there word because even if it is something easy, some people just dont know how. i work with a guy who put brake pads in backwards and cant change windshield wipers lol


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