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airtonics 12-07-2003 12:06 PM

Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
Guys I dont know maybe its just me but the Pontiac vibe is really growing on me. Now that you can get them in monotone instead of having the flares and handles a different color I'm liking it a lot.

I'm really talking about the vibe GT with the yamaha engine which is also used in the matrix.

Anyways I found some pics of this one on car domain. I think one could look really sweet if it had 18's, lowered 3 inches and thats right a big front mount up front.

Oh yeah they come with a 6spd manual which sounds mighty appealing and I could fit all my stuff in it and not have a problem like i do with the sunfire. 180hp stock and runs about a 15.7 from what I saw at car and driver.

Anyways is it wrong for me to like this "thing" lol

I'll post some pics, the color is also very similair to the color i painted my sunfire....

http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...19_86_full.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...19_89_full.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...19_87_full.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...47_12_full.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...41_24_full.jpg
plenty of room for turbo right?
http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...19_84_full.jpg
See that nice spot for a front mount down low. I could cut that bumper at that body line and I'm sure a 6" intercooler would fill that gap nicely


Do you guys think I'm nuts? I can't afford one for a while but maybe later down the road. I dunno..... just kinda appealing to me right now

hotrex 12-07-2003 12:10 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
wow man you have some strange as taste in cars, i woulda figured appealing to you would be a wrx sti or a s2000 but hey whatever floats your raft. i personally couldnt be paid to drive that thing but it could be a hellofa sleeper with the right sized turbo

d16forlife 12-07-2003 12:26 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
Thats not bad but I like the toyota matrix better.I know its the same car but that front end is knida fugly.

PoorMansPorsche 12-07-2003 01:32 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
yes

Dr.Boost 12-07-2003 02:07 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
To each his own.... :-X
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88crxSi 12-07-2003 02:21 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
yamaha engine?? Looks like the Celica GTS engine to me? ???

airtonics 12-07-2003 02:34 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 

Originally Posted by crx88Si
yamaha engine?? Looks like the Celica GTS engine to me? ???

Yes its the same engine as the celiva GTS, i thought i read somewhere that yamaha designed it but cannot find it. So I must be wrong....anyways same engine yes

I know its an odd taste but I like it...i suppose i'm just strange. As for turbocharging it...i read more on the engine and its a mess. Sport compact is doing a project matrix.... this was part of the article

With the new, returnless systems, however, there's no return line to restrict and fuel pressure doesn't change with manifold pressure any more. The regulator controlling fuel pressure is all the way back in the fuel tank, and there's no easy way to make it change with boost. In order to use a rising rate regulator, XS had to convert to an old-style manifold referenced return line system. The complications don't stop there, either. Even with a re-routed fuel system, the ECU still thinks the fuel pressure will be constant, so the entire fuel calibration, even off boost, is wrong with the new system.

That sounds like a biach

hotrex 12-07-2003 03:29 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
bottom line, too much money for not enough car, think what you could build for the cost of that econo box

Stan 12-07-2003 03:43 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
It's the same as a Toyota Matrix.

Stan

Reddy 12-07-2003 03:52 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
looks like a minivan

rudebwoy 12-07-2003 04:13 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
at least this one looks better that the first one, I'm a honda/audi guy, but I like it.

Semnos 12-07-2003 04:20 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
lol...they make it more difficult to boos tyour car nowadays.
Stupid returnless systems...or you have to go standalone

bumblezc 12-07-2003 04:50 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
Is it me or if it is the same engine as the Celica/Matrix, does it not have 11.5:1 Comp Ratio. Ouch For turbo if you want high boost or even low boost without REALLY careful management.

airtonics 12-07-2003 05:50 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 

Originally Posted by bumblezc
Is it me or if it is the same engine as the Celica/Matrix, does it not have 11.5:1 Comp Ratio. Ouch For turbo if you want high boost or even low boost without REALLY careful management.

It uses the same engine as the celica GTS and everything except the body is the same as the matrix. Yes the comppression ratio is 11.5:1...but it has been boosted up to 7psi and had some fairly impressive numbers.

OnYx 12-07-2003 05:53 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
that thing is fugly and heavy i bet.

J-SMITH69 12-07-2003 06:20 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
i think it looks fine. id rather drive it than a civic

HMT-Admin 12-07-2003 06:30 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
:-X

airtonics 12-07-2003 06:47 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
Onyx, actually its no heavier than my sunfire....weighs about 2700lbs

Jeff,
as usual you can blow me :P

R-MAK 12-07-2003 07:11 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
https://images.google.ca/images?q=tb...ik_estrada.jpg

;)

HMT-Admin 12-07-2003 08:24 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
Hey travis.. I didnt like your admin star avatar, so I think that this pic would be good for your avatar too! ;D


Originally Posted by airtonics
Jeff,
as usual you can blow me :P

tsk tsk... you do know that vibe is a manual not an automatic right? how could you learn to drive such a thing?
;)

R-MAK 12-07-2003 08:33 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 

Originally Posted by AbaZ
Hey travis.. I didnt like your admin star avatar, so I think that this pic would be good for your avatar too! ;D

:) I love you too Jeff.

turbo z24 guy 12-07-2003 08:38 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
i kinda like em too.... maybe its just us domestic people...idk bro.

airtonics 12-07-2003 08:51 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
Jeff,

for your information the sunfire is my first automatic car. Everything else was manual and if it wasnt I converted it to manual.


I still prefer sticks but I couldnt pass up the deal on the sunfire is all.....

Thats funny I was wondering how travis was admin lol

Oh and in case you didn't know, I love you Jeff. Just dont tell the girlfriend ;)

CUSTOMSHIT 12-07-2003 10:03 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
I think its one ugly mf but thats just me

Semnos 12-08-2003 04:53 AM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
it looks like a big fat hamster or a big fat Cavia

Bobohc3d 12-08-2003 05:00 AM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
http://www.funkyproductions.net/labs.../qqqqqqqqq.jpg
I'am da Fotoshop masta :P

airtonics 12-08-2003 05:54 AM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
no no foo its gotta be like this

http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...01_14_full.jpg

turbo z24 guy 12-08-2003 10:50 AM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
...but theres no tire on that front rim..and the rear one is all curb checked to ----.... :-\

davcivic 12-08-2003 11:01 AM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
I like it, but I like the matrix a little more. I would not buy it, but I think it looks pretty good for a station wagon 8)

airtonics 12-08-2003 12:46 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
Matt, it was a 5 min photoshp before my final exam gimme a break :P

Special FX 12-08-2003 12:55 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
No, it only natural to like Toyota cars (especially Corollas) so why fight it? The Corolla Matrix, er... "pontiac vibe" is a beautiful mixture of Toyota engineering genius with Yamaha's cylinder head magic, that unfortunately fell victim to GM. Just like so many other corollas (prizms novas)

88crxSi 12-08-2003 02:11 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
it's a mini minivan :-X

you couldn't even be soccer mom in that thing. You'd have to be soccer girl.

Anyways...

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/pr...scc_projmatrix
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/pr...scc_projmatrix
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/pr...2scc_promatrix

warren_teg 12-08-2003 05:18 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
hey theres nothing wrong with that. i like that song bitter sweet symphony.

typert 12-09-2003 02:32 AM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 

Originally Posted by airtonics

Originally Posted by crx88Si
yamaha engine?? Looks like the Celica GTS engine to me? ???

Yes its the same engine as the celiva GTS, i thought i read somewhere that yamaha designed it but cannot find it. So I must be wrong....anyways same engine yes

I know its an odd taste but I like it...i suppose i'm just strange. As for turbocharging it...i read more on the engine and its a mess. Sport compact is doing a project matrix.... this was part of the article

With the new, returnless systems, however, there's no return line to restrict and fuel pressure doesn't change with manifold pressure any more. The regulator controlling fuel pressure is all the way back in the fuel tank, and there's no easy way to make it change with boost. In order to use a rising rate regulator, XS had to convert to an old-style manifold referenced return line system. The complications don't stop there, either. Even with a re-routed fuel system, the ECU still thinks the fuel pressure will be constant, so the entire fuel calibration, even off boost, is wrong with the new system.

That sounds like a biach

Its not.. you have to do that fuel setup in quite a few cars(like my neon). you just disable the stock regulator and replace it with a rising rate regulator like a vortech SFMU or similar and put in a higher volume pump or a booster pump.

J-SMITH69 12-09-2003 02:39 AM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 

Originally Posted by Special FX
No, it only natural to like Toyota cars (especially Corollas) so why fight it? The Corolla Matrix, er... "pontiac vibe" is a beautiful mixture of Toyota engineering genius with Yamaha's cylinder head magic, that unfortunately fell victim to GM. Just like so many other corollas (prizms novas)

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airtonics 12-09-2003 07:19 AM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
typert,

Its not.. you have to do that fuel setup in quite a few cars(like my neon). you just disable the stock regulator and replace it with a rising rate regulator like a vortech SFMU or similar and put in a higher volume pump or a booster pump.
Thank you thats some good info. Allthough I dont understand it without really looking at it, it really doesnt sound bad at all. I was thinking you could probably use an SAFC or an Emanage as well to change the fuel curve....that'd probably be better than rising rate anyways.

I dunno guys this week has giving me some hard thinking, I'll be out of school in may and probalby have a good enough job. Truth is I'd rather save up for a house and pay off some of my large college debts than buy a new vehicle. Plus I do love my sunfire, I suppose I just cant help but like these things.

I'm actually really surpised this post had this much attention, I wasn't expecting that.

deacon2377 12-09-2003 01:39 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
I (and by I I mean my wife) have one. She wanted one so bad, and I told her the only way to get one was with the GTS engine. I am pleasantly surprised with it. The likes:

It can carrry all of your ----. We drive back and forth to the east coast a cuople times a year, and we can carry about 4 times as much ---- as with my 99DX. The power is pretty good, the suspension is nice and tight, and the shifter is fun to throw around.

The dislikes:

The shifter is really notchy. You gotta rev the ---- out of it to get into the good part of the power band.

when we are ------- around on the street the vibe hold up well against me at 5 psi. Now that I am at 8psi there isnt really much of a contest.

I think about as much power as can be made from that engine has already been wrung out of it without major modifications. Keep in mind that thhey offer a base model now with a ~180 hp blown motor. That may be a better bet, as it will be set up better for positive pressure, and it would seem likely that an aftermarket pully will come out so you can up the boost.

jung4g 12-09-2003 05:35 PM

Re:Is it wrong for me to like.......The Vibe?
 
airtonics,

we love you man, but a vibe? I'm not catching good vibes about this idea, maybe for straight line, but that tall body can't handle worth my left nut


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