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Stan 09-26-2004 05:13 PM

Would I be crazy?
 
All this talk about D series. Sometimes I wish I had of built the ---- out of my d16y7 and put a y8 head on it and boosted it.

Would I be crazy to sell my b18b with probe forged pistons (8.7:1 cr), eagle h beams, vtec oil pump...etc and turbo kit and build the ---- out of a sohc vtec?

If I ever wreck this b18b again, i'll definately go d series again, but sometime I wonder if I should save myself the trouble and do it now.

Stan
ps: a prime example of a kick ass d series.. beerbongkicksass

SkunT 09-26-2004 05:16 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 
D series ownes B series, and I think everyone knows this...

87na_rx7 09-26-2004 05:19 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 

Originally Posted by sccaeg
D series ownes B series, and I think everyone knows this...

until you wanna make some real numbers ;)

leed 09-26-2004 05:20 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 

Originally Posted by Rx7toStarion

Originally Posted by sccaeg
D series ownes B series, and I think everyone knows this...

until you wanna make some real numbers ;)

werd

HondaTuner 09-26-2004 05:24 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 
I think you're crazy. D --> B is being smart, B --> D is being cheap :P Unless you just want a good ole disposable D, I'd say stay with the B18.

robs99si 09-26-2004 05:27 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 
uh...how could a less technicaly advanced engine with less power from factory, weaker rods and pistons be better than an engine with more power, 50% more power as a matter of fact, and stronger rods and pistons. the d series enthusiasm is cause there are more people with ds then with b series. if i had a d series, i wouldn't do a swap, i'd build it first. but i'd never go d series if i have a b installed already.

bambooseven 09-26-2004 05:43 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 
the reason why all of us D-series guys have D-series still is because we don't want to buy a B series initially (the $ spent on a B could be well spent on building the D, or boosting it, or sometimes both) however if you already have a B stick w/ it. I don't think any one of us D -series fanatics would turn down a B series if someone wanted to give it to us for free, we just wouldn't buy one.

stick w/ your B, sleeve it, go to 2.0L put a vtec head on it, and make us all look like little bitches.


BTW if you have forged internals (and decent fuel management), you are dumb to be running at 8psi on a 60trim T3, try 15 on for size. ;D

Stan 09-26-2004 06:07 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 

Originally Posted by trebor_nordap
uh...how could a less technicaly advanced engine with less power from factory, weaker rods and pistons be better than an engine with more power, 50% more power as a matter of fact, and stronger rods and pistons. the d series enthusiasm is cause there are more people with ds then with b series. if i had a d series, i wouldn't do a swap, i'd build it first. but i'd never go d series if i have a b installed already.

The money from the b series could build one hell of a d series and a kick ass turbo kit. Also, it seems like the d series can handle more boost than b series with stock sleeves (this is the part that impresses me most).

Stan

HondaTuner 09-26-2004 06:10 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 
^ Just get new sleeves for your engine then :P

mahcivic 09-26-2004 06:12 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 
i have a d because i wanted to be different form everyone in my town who has h22s and b16s and ----. you already have a nice setup as it is. throw some more boost at it. then youll realize what your saying is stupid

HondaTuner 09-26-2004 06:34 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 
I'll trade you my CRX for your B series setup :-*

Stan 09-26-2004 07:52 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 
See, the problem is that mine only has a mild build. It's got forged internals, but the sleeves are stock with a 81.5mm bore. A somewhat local had a nice setup with a b20@12psi but he cracked a sleeve which is what scares me the most (other than this stupid oil problem). Otherwise i'd jack the boost more than 8psi... which technically i'm running 0 psi right now because i'm waiting for an outlet pipe so i can boost again. ---- I don't know what to do. I wish this oil thing would go away. :-\

87na_rx7 09-26-2004 08:09 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 

Originally Posted by Stan
See, the problem is that mine only has a mild build. It's got forged internals, but the sleeves are stock with a 81.5mm bore. A somewhat local had a nice setup with a b20@12psi but he cracked a sleeve which is what scares me the most (other than this stupid oil problem). Otherwise i'd jack the boost more than 8psi... which technically i'm running 0 psi right now because i'm waiting for an outlet pipe so i can boost again. ---- I don't know what to do. I wish this oil thing would go away. :-\

b20 sleeves are alot weaker then ls sleeve... up the boost!!

87na_rx7 09-26-2004 08:11 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 
oops

con 09-26-2004 08:11 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 
I'll buy your whole car and you can start over ;)

Stan 09-26-2004 08:35 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 

Originally Posted by highroller54
I'll buy your whole car and you can start over ;)

Done! $21,500 cdn ;D ;D

Ravage70 09-26-2004 08:38 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 

Originally Posted by Stan

Originally Posted by highroller54
I'll buy your whole car and you can start over ;)

Done! $21,500 cdn ;D ;D


HHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

biggmike 09-26-2004 09:01 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 
theres plenty of people on HT running around 300HP on LS's and have no problem. stop being a ----- just roll with what you got if it cracks or blows then get your ---- sleeved

Johnyquest 09-26-2004 09:08 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 
Yeah I second that up the boost and stop being a girl... ppl are making 300hp on stock internals... That turbo probably will give one hell of a powerband at like 15-20psi!!!

Matt

Dibble 09-26-2004 09:23 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 
Hummm no dont do that.....

bambooseven 09-26-2004 09:24 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 

Originally Posted by Dibble
Hummm no dont do that.....

don't be a bitch

con 09-26-2004 09:33 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 

Originally Posted by Stan

Originally Posted by highroller54
I'll buy your whole car and you can start over ;)

Done! $21,500 cdn ;D ;D

SUCK A COCK

MikeJ-2009 09-26-2004 09:58 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 

Originally Posted by trebor_nordap
uh...how could a less technicaly advanced engine with less power from factory, weaker rods and pistons be better than an engine with more power, 50% more power as a matter of fact, and stronger rods and pistons.

Easy, the joy of beating a bigger motor than yours is why people like the D. Why did you pick a dohc over a V8? Honda's have always been the underdog of the streets. Having a D series is the complete "underdog package". B series is just cheating a little bit. :D

Stan 09-26-2004 10:17 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 
I'll try upping the boost, but the only thing stopping me is this oil plague my motor has. We'll see what happens when I get this pipe on Wednesday. I'll post video. Car is going in storage soon and I have a spare b18b block already honed and ready to go. If that doesn't work out, then it's time for a disposable D. 8)

Stan

HondaTuner 09-26-2004 10:22 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 
I'll take that B18b block off your hands :P I'm gonna build up something this winter, still not sure quite what..

bambooseven 09-26-2004 10:24 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 

Originally Posted by Stealthmode
Easy, the joy of beating a bigger motor than yours is why people like the D. Why did you pick a dohc over a V8? Honda's have always been the underdog of the streets. Having a D series is the complete "underdog package". B series is just cheating a little bit. :D

just wait till I build a 3cyl geo metro sleeved forged 30psi monster!

biggmike 09-26-2004 10:40 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 
i think i should get rid of my 2000 ITR and instead get a 86 crx si?

robs99si 09-26-2004 10:40 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 
swapping in a built D series is alot like dumping your super model girlfriend and going out with a fat chick only to make her have 10 plastic surgeries so she can look like your super model ex girlfriend. are you sure you're from canada and not poland?

bambooseven 09-26-2004 10:45 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 
no, swapping in a built d-series is like hooking up with a chick who wakes you up w/ breakfast in bed, sucks you off while you eat it,does your laundry, cleans your house, and has dinner on the table when you get home from work, and sucks you off while you eat that.

only she's fat and doesn't suck dick very well.

HMT-Admin 09-26-2004 11:32 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 

Originally Posted by sccaeg
D series ownes B series, and I think everyone knows this...

I'm not the biggest fan of the D, yes.. its where most of us started, but once you drive a boosted B with a vtec head there is no comparison. Boosted B16/B18 vtecs rip pretty hard if tuned right. I remember riding in beaus car along time ago when we boosted his b16a crx, and I couldnt believe how that felt. That feeling right there changed my mind to sell out on my D and go all out with a B.

There really is no comparison, a stock B will make more power than a stock D, and a fully built B vs a fully built D... Well you know the answer to that ;)

Stan, get a Vtec head on your car, it will really make a difference. Ask turbohf when he switched from ls to ls/vtec. It's like a whole different engine.

Jeff

biggmike 09-26-2004 11:55 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 
I love you Jeff :P

scttydb411 09-27-2004 08:35 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 
stan check your pm's.

chevy 09-27-2004 10:37 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 

Originally Posted by AbaZ

Originally Posted by sccaeg
D series ownes B series, and I think everyone knows this...

I'm not the biggest fan of the D, yes.. its where most of us started, but once you drive a boosted B with a vtec head there is no comparison. Boosted B16/B18 vtecs rip pretty hard if tuned right. I remember riding in beaus car along time ago when we boosted his b16a crx, and I couldnt believe how that felt. That feeling right there changed my mind to sell out on my D and go all out with a B.

There really is no comparison, a stock B will make more power than a stock D, and a fully built B vs a fully built D... Well you know the answer to that ;)

Stan, get a Vtec head on your car, it will really make a difference. Ask turbohf when he switched from ls to ls/vtec. It's like a whole different engine.

Jeff

i must agree with this.. i have both a d and a b series boosted..even thou the d is faster right now..(ls is untuned) u can just feel the power right off the bat..
i already got a vtec head for my ls.. as soon as i find a good deal on a b16 or a b18c5 im ditching the d...


Dibble 09-27-2004 10:48 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 

Originally Posted by bambooseven

Originally Posted by Dibble
Hummm no dont do that.....

don't be a bitch

Who's being a bitch? It would better for him to put the D back in and build the B...... Puting a D back in is going the wrong way unless you are building a B and need a filler.
Ass

GodJockey 09-27-2004 10:54 PM

Re:Would I be crazy?
 
Penny is to quarter as D series is to B series. :P


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