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88crxSi 11-04-2003 09:01 AM

worth the cost... hrm...
 
ok Im think here for a second..

how much hp/tq does a b16 in a crx put down w/ i/h/e ?

my crx has the i/h/e, lightened flywheel and a gude cam.

i bet a b16 doesn't put down that much more then my car currently does. I know its like what.. 20 more maybe?

not really worth the 1500 to swap one in.. ls/vtec should be my path huh?

sohcrxsi 11-04-2003 11:04 AM

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what kind of power does a ls/vtec make anyway? hp and tq

88crxSi 11-04-2003 11:08 AM

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crank.. probably 180hp w/ 140tq.

projekteg 11-05-2003 07:12 AM

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well that depends on what engine you have now. a stock b16 is rated at 160hp, so with i/h/e, you may get around 10 extra hp, so around 170 hp. an lsvtec definitel has more power and tq. i have a b16 in my 00 si, and i'm prolly gonna build up a b18 block this winter for lsvtec.

shaved_civic 11-05-2003 02:17 PM

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DONT GET A B16! I got one and there slow stock. they have no torque. Almost anycar can beat me on the highway. now that i blew it im ganna build it up a little. Pistons and some other junk. but they still suck even built. Defently get atleast a b18 for some torque. B16's suck stock and they suck built.

To sum everything up = Dont get a b16

Jordan

turbohf 11-05-2003 02:25 PM

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thats kinda funny, cuz everyone says to me "why didnt you get a B16?!?!?" the awnser is torque.... :-*

4sillypwr 11-05-2003 05:14 PM

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I rode in a stock b16 hatch once. I swear to god it was slower than my y8 mini me used to be. Waste of money.

Johnyquest 11-05-2003 05:31 PM

Re:worth the cost... hrm...
 

Originally Posted by shaved_civic
DONT GET A B16! I got one and there slow stock. they have no torque. Almost anycar can beat me on the highway. now that i blew it im ganna build it up a little. Pistons and some other junk. but they still suck even built. Defently get atleast a b18 for some torque. B16's suck stock and they suck built.

To sum everything up = Dont get a b16

Jordan

LOL I loved every minute of that post. D-Series POWAH!

GimpyCivic 11-05-2003 06:01 PM

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I had a B16A2 in my old 92 Hatch, it dyno'd 151hp, 103 ft lbs with a DC header and a homo-made shortram. The worst $:Power items I've ever bought to be honest... well besides those 10 tornado intake things ::)


D Series 8)


bambooseven 11-05-2003 06:42 PM

Re:worth the cost... hrm...
 
spend the $1500 on boost for your sohc and walk on b16's

JD 11-06-2003 12:19 AM

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b16's are definetly not worth the cost. In our town there is a 240 with the silvia engine swap and my buddy raced him twice in his 92 civic hatch with the gsr engine swap and they stayed neck and neck the whole way (until I passed them both with my f22a running 10 pounds on a t25). But the b16 is ok but not really worth the money. My advice is to build up your engine with money you would have spent on the b16 and then run the ---- out of b18's and others with a turbo kit.

Bobohc3d 11-06-2003 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JD
b16's are definetly not worth the cost. In our town there is a 240 with the silvia engine swap and my buddy raced him twice in his 92 civic hatch with the gsr engine swap and they stayed neck and neck the whole way (until I passed them both with my f22a running 10 pounds on a t25). But the b16 is ok but not really worth the money. My advice is to build up your engine with money you would have spent on the b16 and then run the ---- out of b18's and others with a turbo kit.

true :)

88crxSi 11-06-2003 08:17 AM

Re:worth the cost... hrm...
 

Originally Posted by projekteg
well that depends on what engine you have now. a stock b16 is rated at 160hp, so with i/h/e, you may get around 10 extra hp, so around 170 hp. an lsvtec definitel has more power and tq. i have a b16 in my 00 si, and i'm prolly gonna build up a b18 block this winter for lsvtec.

no no no.. what i mean is my d16a6 has i/h/e GUDE CAM, lightened flywheel. probably only makes what.. 20hp less then a 100% stock b16.. which to me is not worth the swap.

BLACKSI 11-06-2003 10:19 AM

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i'll go against the grain and say i loved my b16 swap when i did it. It was plenty fast i used to walk all over my friends gsr. it ran 14.2-14.4 with intake and exhaust even with crappy auto cams. but I know when my b18 is done it will rock my b16 but i still think the b16 is a good steping stone from d series.

Beau

bambooseven 11-06-2003 10:25 AM

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the funny part is, an LS/V isn't that muh more expensive then a b16, (what $500 more if you look hard enough?) you'd spend that much on bolt ons for your b16 anyway.

projekteg 11-06-2003 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BLACKSI
i'll go against the grain and say i loved my b16 swap when i did it. It was plenty fast i used to walk all over my friends gsr. it ran 14.2-14.4 with intake and exhaust even with crappy auto cams. but I know when my b18 is done it will rock my b16 but i still think the b16 is a good steping stone from d series.

Beau

i agree, everyone wants a b16 and expects their car to run 13's. IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN! if you take a car with a stock b16 and any stock d series, the b16 is gonna smoke the d. so it just depends on what you want. yeah, a built, boosted d series will spank a STOCK b16, but a built, boosted b16, will spank a built, boosted d series. so all and all, it's good investment even if you can't afford to boost it right away, when you do boost it, it will have more power than if you just stuck with your d series to save money. like i said, it depends on what you want. i've never had a d series, but i had a b18b, and then got an si with a b16, the b18b felt like it pulled harder in lower rpms, but after about 4500, the b16 takes the b18b hands down.

BLACKSI 11-06-2003 10:29 AM

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yea but for as cheap as a b16 is ---- its worth the cost of the b16 just for the vtec head later downthe road when you do a lsvtec

i think i payed 500 for my second b16 500 bucks for a long block is well worht the money especily when you get a complete dohc vtec head.

Beau

projekteg 11-06-2003 10:35 AM

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yeah, definitely, once you get the whole swap in, replacement longblocks and or shortblocks aren't going to cost that much, it's just paying for the whole swap at first that's gonna cost, but after that, what's the most you'll need? a block?

racerex 11-06-2003 11:23 AM

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It depends what you want. If you want a super fast car with a stock motor, swap in a GSR, or something bigger than the B16. But the reality of it is, is that the B16 is one of the most capable motors Honda ever built. If you want to spend some more money on building it up right, the B16 is an excellent choice. It all just depneds...


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