ichbinsobose

"amazing" cars that couldnt last 5 years if you drove it though a puddle

stillnoturbo

***** please, cause you know cars with 4 and 5 lugs have their wheels blowing cause that extra lug makes a world a difference. So cars with 5 lugs and making massive amounts of TQ have problems keeping their wheels on? I vote that Dodge is just retarded.

spiralout112

They do tons of ---- like that, thats why domesically concerned chevy is #1, it kinda seems that most of their cars werent built by an idiot. Then theres ford that puts exhaust bolts right behind a bend, and just close enough that you cant get a impact socket on it so you have to try to loosen the ****** with a wrench (cutting torch in reality). Then theres dodge, they once upon a time decided that a transmission mount needed to be broken down into 3 parts, first 4 5/8th's bolts go into the tranny case. Then theres another section that bolts on with 15mm bolts. Then they take it down to 4 tiny studs into the crossmember that have 1/2 nuts on them, started out strong and then used something that my weak *** 3/8ths impact will snap off. I could go on but ill just sum it up with the fact that it will have to have a dammmmmm good reason to even consider buying a ford/dodge.

Smith-02

its the strength of the wheel over 6 bots vs 4 or 5. also lets a superbly strong wheel be used for abusive handling (ie lemans)

MikeJ-2009

They make fucked up bolt patterns so they can patent them and try to cash in on the aftermarket wheel companies.