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iceknight24 06-08-2005 11:03 PM

what is the point
 
what is the point of putting a vetch head on a ls block?
what is the differance?
want to know because i ot a whole ls for free and i am going to turbo it later.

Reddy 06-08-2005 11:05 PM

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becuase it has speed dialing capabilities

HondaTuner 06-08-2005 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitey
becuase it has speed dialing capabilities

And call waiting :o

FooK 06-08-2005 11:54 PM

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yeah, and the new ones have a james bond ringtone.

iceknight24 06-08-2005 11:58 PM

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haha come on what is the point of makin a ls vetch

FooK 06-08-2005 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by iceknight24
haha come on what is the point of makin a ls vech

from dictionary.com

No entry found for vech.

Did you mean vetch?
Suggestions:
vetch
Cech
Lech
lech
sech
tech
yech
Zech.
mech.
tech.

MikeJ-2009 06-09-2005 12:00 AM

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900 MH should be plenty.

1337 06-09-2005 12:10 AM

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unless you have money coming out your ass don't mess with any vtec conversions. Save up for the turbo and have some real fun : ).

jung4g 06-09-2005 12:18 AM

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did you know radio shack carries vtech, it's just re-branded as radioshack brand phones, I know, I used to work there.


you suck at life iceknight

J-SMITH69 06-09-2005 12:35 AM

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i put two vtak heads on my muffstink. boy when vetch kicks its like 4psi

Tom-Guy 06-09-2005 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by iceknight24
haha come on what is the point of makin a ls vetch

Vetch is a good idle.

Remember kids, kerosene won't detonate at 12K rpms! Neither will a non-vetch at the same hp and better torque with the proper thermal management.

leed 06-09-2005 01:31 AM

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I thought it was better cause' its pink :-\


nitecrawler 06-09-2005 01:44 AM

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you guys are asses, god forbid you give him a straight answer

Tom-Guy 06-09-2005 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by leed
I thought it was better cause' its pink :-\

----- is PINK. Your point is?


Originally Posted by nitecrawler
you guys are asses, god forbid you give him a straight answer

God forbid he performs a netsearch to answer the fundimental question of the Honduh scene: "Am I an ignorant riceboy faggot, or not?"

Donald125 06-09-2005 02:10 AM

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it gives you enough high rpm PoW3R with the "fast" cam while keeping your low rpm power with the "low" cam

LS block has longer stroke, gives your more low end tork but power dies out at like 5500ish rpm..
Factory VtHeC motor has shorter stroke, allows it to rev higher but produce less tork at low rpm.

So u mix them up and creat a motor that has good low end tork yet makes good high end power.

.......something like that :P


Tom-Guy 06-09-2005 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Donald125
it gives you enough high rpm PoW3R with the "fast" cam while keeping your low rpm power with the "low" cam

LS block has longer stroke, gives your more low end tork but power dies out at like 5500ish rpm..
Factory VtHeC motor has shorter stroke, allows it to rev higher but produce less tork at low rpm.

So u mix them up and creat a motor that has good low end tork yet makes good high end power.

.......something like that :P


Close, but not wholly there. I'll only argue the small, irrelevant points:

Difference between LS and GSR rod/stroke ratio is ---- all.

Difference between LS and B16 "with better flowing head" when boosted is ---- all.

Boosted LS starts dropping torque around 4500-4800, and it's power curve is totally flat 6500-7000 before power drops off. Unless you have Web billet cams + Crower valvetrain, like my boy Speedy, so your LS's torque peak is 6400 and power doesn't drop off until 6800 rpm because that's when Jack at P1 lifts off the throttle despite being told to hold it in until 8000 rpm because said cams are good to 8500.

Wait I got that last part wrong - they aren't Speedy's head/cams/valvetrain anymore. >:D


MikeJ-2009 06-09-2005 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Donald125
it gives you enough high rpm PoW3R with the "fast" cam while keeping your low rpm power with the "low" cam


So the LS vetchk has a fast cam and a low cam, huh? I always thought it had a slow cam and a high cam. Boy was I wrong. :-[

Cray91 06-09-2005 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealthmode
900 MH should be plenty.

---- that 2.4ghz here mang. Don't want people listening in.

Special ED 06-09-2005 03:29 AM

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dood, i took 3 veetck heds n put dem all on my LS motor at once, it was uber fast wit 3 times teh Veeteck!!

i called it 3-tec, pics up soon...

HMT-Admin 06-09-2005 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by iceknight24
what is the point of putting a vetch head on a ls block?

The point? the point is its faster and makes more power in this form over stock. The main point people do this is because its cheap, alot cheaper than actually buying for say.. a GSR


what is the differance?
The difference between a regular LS and a LS/vtec ? alot.. Vtec is a beautiful thing, Take a ride in a B16a or a GSR vs a straight LS you could easily tell "what the difference is" its basically alot more peak HP.


want to know because i ot a whole ls for free and i am going to turbo it later.
Keep in mind LS/vtecs get a bad rap because people do not do them correctly. Lots of kids just slap on vtec heads on these high milage old worn out B18a/b's and rev the living ---- out of them on a stock pr3. The correct way would be to use a Vtec oil pump, replace the rings (throw a quick hone job on the bitch) inspect the rod bearings for wear, and run a chipped ecu with a good fuel/timing map or a GSR ecu.

There is lots of information on this big place called the INTERNET, lots of write ups on how to do ls/vtecs etc etc. Good luck

Jeff

Special ED 06-09-2005 04:34 AM

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holy ----



http://www.siteofsteve.net/battle/ow...d_connect4.jpg

koreanwilcox 06-09-2005 09:53 AM

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Totally OT:

Special ED <-- how do you know Shane Saviors? I used to skate with him back in the day and haven't heard about him for a while... you from the Beaverton area?

Paul99EX 06-09-2005 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by nitecrawler
you guys are asses, god forbid you give him a straight answer

stfu, this is comin from a dude who had the entire east coast crwe put his turbo on, while he walked around with a ------ video camera, and now has the balls to get an attitude towards people now...youre the ass, ASS

douspray 06-09-2005 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitey
becuase it has speed dialing capabilities

damn not again! VTEC>VTECH
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iceknight24 06-09-2005 12:47 PM

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thanks all ill savee some money and find a gsr head then and a gsr oil pump.

rudebwoy 06-09-2005 01:35 PM

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the head dont have to be from a gsr. b16 heads do the job also

Special ED 06-09-2005 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ej1 wilcox
Totally OT:

Special ED <-- how do you know Shane Saviors? I used to skate with him back in the day and haven't heard about him for a while... you from the Beaverton area?

i was from beaverton, but didn't know him. im an oldschooler, so i knew of him. but i did run into him a few times at the beaverton park, i lived there from 99-02. he seemed pretty quiet, is he still involved in rolling?

koreanwilcox 06-09-2005 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Special ED

Originally Posted by ej1 wilcox
Totally OT:

Special ED <-- how do you know Shane Saviors? I used to skate with him back in the day and haven't heard about him for a while... you from the Beaverton area?

i was from beaverton, but didn't know him. im an oldschooler, so i knew of him. but i did run into him a few times at the beaverton park, i lived there from 99-02. he seemed pretty quiet, is he still involved in rolling?

Yeah, he was always pretty quiet. I grew up in Beaverton and used to skate with Shane, BJ, and a bunch of other guys. We skated way back in the day though, like through junior high and high school, so around 94-97 or so.

He was always a crazy mofo and was always getting hurt, but man, he could bust some ----!

I haven't seen him around lately though so I don't know what he's up to.

Reddy 06-09-2005 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nitecrawler
you guys are asses, god forbid you give him a straight answer


If he wanted tech he should have posted this in the tech forums. But since its in GD, he gets answers like this

Special ED 06-10-2005 12:28 AM

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yeah dude, BJ was awesome, he was the first authentic crazy irishman that i had ever met

FooK 06-10-2005 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Special ED
yeah dude, BJ was awesome, he was the first authentic crazy irishman that i had ever met

oh no are you telling me special ed is a local? yikes.

Special ED 06-10-2005 12:35 AM

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im in MN now, i used to live in beaverton

Ravage70 06-10-2005 01:00 AM

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i used to live near beavertown
elephanttown was its name, giant feces graced the plane

Special ED 06-10-2005 01:13 AM

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i thought they called it beaverton because of all the hot chicks in VW cabrios.

FooK 06-10-2005 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Special ED
i thought they called it beaverton because of all the hot chicks in VW cabrios.

never saw that when i lived there.


MikeJ-2009 06-10-2005 01:26 AM

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No, they call it beaverton because you get no beaver from the cops when you try to pump your own gas. What kind of place is that where you can't even pump your own fucken gas??????

My grandma used to live in Tigard. :P

warric_k 06-10-2005 01:55 PM

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J. Davis is my hero.


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