We needs a new system to control guns
04-19-2007, 05:47 PM
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Re: We needs a new system to control guns
Originally Posted by beerbongskickass
Shut up you -----... 
Were not talking about other situations, were talking about this one, and the fact is if somebody (security guard, teacher, student, etc...) would have had a gun those innocent kids that died would have had a chance to live. Without a gun? Well we all saw what happened...
Were not talking about other situations, were talking about this one, and the fact is if somebody (security guard, teacher, student, etc...) would have had a gun those innocent kids that died would have had a chance to live. Without a gun? Well we all saw what happened...
In the UK it took a class full of pre-school kids getting murdered by a lunatic with a gun license. We got rid of the right to own a hand gun and it hasn't happened since. Thats a 100% success rate in my book. Would you suggest the alternative is to give the teachers handguns, or maybe the children?
The real thing which failed those kids was the fact that the school wasn't evacuated after the first shooting. If they weren't in school, there would've been no need to start shooting back. And if the kid who had attempted it, couldn't get a gun through legal means, he probably wouldn't of had a gun at all.
Just to cite another case study, in the uk, a guy attacked a church full of people with a knife, if he'd had the chance to buy a gun, more people would've died in the process.
Your logic here is mutually assured destruction. Only flaw being, everyone still dies.
04-19-2007, 06:32 PM
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Re: We needs a new system to control guns
sounds like everyones expecting to be shoot at at some point. .
FYI I am not only focusing on thie specific incident, but among so many skool shooting and countless death resulted from fire arms.
IMO, of course even AFTER they start making ppl to turn in their guns, guns will be still around for a good while but eventually it will be minimized after a period of time.
Chance of getting kill will NEVER be a zero. if everyone afraid to be shot at then all of you should stay inside the house.
I understand if you are drag dealer/gangster or whatever the ---- you are, you do need a gun at some point to protect yourself. But if you are (or at least if you think you are) a legit person I don`t really see how "carrying" helps. It does help at a certain level for now since guns are popular but it will not be necessary If it is banned for a long period of
time. What all of you talk about is how it is protecting you RIGHT NOW but if guns are banned , eventually you will no loner need it.
BTW, next time when I go visit Japan i am going to carry a nuclear boom with me just in case, you know? I might as well bring a parasuit with me when I am on the plane, too.
. FYI I am not only focusing on thie specific incident, but among so many skool shooting and countless death resulted from fire arms.
IMO, of course even AFTER they start making ppl to turn in their guns, guns will be still around for a good while but eventually it will be minimized after a period of time.
Chance of getting kill will NEVER be a zero. if everyone afraid to be shot at then all of you should stay inside the house.
I understand if you are drag dealer/gangster or whatever the ---- you are, you do need a gun at some point to protect yourself. But if you are (or at least if you think you are) a legit person I don`t really see how "carrying" helps. It does help at a certain level for now since guns are popular but it will not be necessary If it is banned for a long period of
time. What all of you talk about is how it is protecting you RIGHT NOW but if guns are banned , eventually you will no loner need it.
BTW, next time when I go visit Japan i am going to carry a nuclear boom with me just in case, you know? I might as well bring a parasuit with me when I am on the plane, too.
04-19-2007, 06:43 PM
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Re: We needs a new system to control guns
Gun control is pointless to talk about because there is absolutely no possible way guns will be banned in america. The guy that shot up VA tech would have done it one way or another no matter what the laws were, period.
If you can't see how somebody carrying a gun could have helped in this situation? Your a complete ------- moron...
If you can't see how somebody carrying a gun could have helped in this situation? Your a complete ------- moron...
04-19-2007, 06:45 PM
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Re: We needs a new system to control guns
Originally Posted by Inquisition
Are we realistically supposed to expect this to happen to us? I'm sure if someone ran the statistics of an event like the VT mass murder to happen to you it would be a near 0% percent chance. But lets bank on that minuscule percentage. Also lets play the lottery, because I'm sure the odds are very similar. Think rationally vs irrationally please.
Originally Posted by DrSeuss
You're the victim, you are forced into believing carrying a gun is the solution.
What happens when you get shot in a driveby when you don't have time to blink, let alone try and shoot back. What happens when you get shot by the robber who would've just taken your wallet gets scared because you try to pull your gun.
More cops in america get killed by their own handgun then one the perpetrator was carrying. And i'll give you a clue, it isn't because they shoot themselves.
Bringing an extra weapon into a volatile situation, isn't always going to work out in your favour, in fact, its just as likely to work against you.
And i very much doubt, i'd ever have the ***** to actually shoot someone. Its just not in my nature.
What happens when you get shot in a driveby when you don't have time to blink, let alone try and shoot back. What happens when you get shot by the robber who would've just taken your wallet gets scared because you try to pull your gun.
More cops in america get killed by their own handgun then one the perpetrator was carrying. And i'll give you a clue, it isn't because they shoot themselves.
Bringing an extra weapon into a volatile situation, isn't always going to work out in your favour, in fact, its just as likely to work against you.
And i very much doubt, i'd ever have the ***** to actually shoot someone. Its just not in my nature.
Originally Posted by beerbongskickass
If you can't see how somebody carrying a gun could have helped in this situation? Your a complete ------- moron...
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04-19-2007, 06:47 PM
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Re: We needs a new system to control guns
Originally Posted by beerbongskickass
If you can't see how somebody carrying a gun could have helped in this situation? Your a complete ------- moron...
04-19-2007, 06:54 PM
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Re: We needs a new system to control guns
Originally Posted by Donald125
sounds like everyones expecting to be shoot at at some point. .
FYI I am not only focusing on thie specific incident, but among so many skool shooting and countless death resulted from fire arms.
IMO, of course even AFTER they start making ppl to turn in their guns, guns will be still around for a good while but eventually it will be minimized after a period of time.
Chance of getting kill will NEVER be a zero. if everyone afraid to be shot at then all of you should stay inside the house.
I understand if you are drag dealer/gangster or whatever the ---- you are, you do need a gun at some point to protect yourself. But if you are (or at least if you think you are) a legit person I don`t really see how "carrying" helps. It does help at a certain level for now since guns are popular but it will not be necessary If it is banned for a long period of
time. What all of you talk about is how it is protecting you RIGHT NOW but if guns are banned , eventually you will no loner need it.
BTW, next time when I go visit Japan i am going to carry a nuclear boom with me just in case, you know? I might as well bring a parasuit with me when I am on the plane, too.
. FYI I am not only focusing on thie specific incident, but among so many skool shooting and countless death resulted from fire arms.
IMO, of course even AFTER they start making ppl to turn in their guns, guns will be still around for a good while but eventually it will be minimized after a period of time.
Chance of getting kill will NEVER be a zero. if everyone afraid to be shot at then all of you should stay inside the house.
I understand if you are drag dealer/gangster or whatever the ---- you are, you do need a gun at some point to protect yourself. But if you are (or at least if you think you are) a legit person I don`t really see how "carrying" helps. It does help at a certain level for now since guns are popular but it will not be necessary If it is banned for a long period of
time. What all of you talk about is how it is protecting you RIGHT NOW but if guns are banned , eventually you will no loner need it.
BTW, next time when I go visit Japan i am going to carry a nuclear boom with me just in case, you know? I might as well bring a parasuit with me when I am on the plane, too.
Put yourself in a "REAL LIFE" situation. You take your girlfriend out to see a movie. After the movie a man approaches you with a knife and stabs you in the stomach. He then takes your girlfreind and rips off her pants so he can get his ---- on. WTF are you going to do? Scream and cry and yell for help? How long is it going to take for the police to show up? What if he starts stabbing your girlfriend after he's done skull ------- her? Are you still just going to stand there holding your liver from falling out? What are you going to do?
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04-19-2007, 07:57 PM
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Re: We needs a new system to control guns
the problem with gun control is that people think that simply making guns illegal will just make all the guns dissappear.
that is very wrong, who the ---- do you think is going to turn in their weapons? who are the police going to confiscate weapons from?
they will go to everyone's house that has a gun registered in their name, they will ask everyone with a CWP to turn in their weapons, thats it. you think people that aren't supposed to have weapons are going to just waltz into the police station with them and turn them in? how is the police going to determine who has a gun that is not registered?
basically gun control ensures that only criminals will have guns because they could give a ---- about the law in the first place. it would also get rid of any kind of regulation of permits and background checks, instead of a huge screening process to buy a handgun, all you need is enough money to pay for it.
that is very wrong, who the ---- do you think is going to turn in their weapons? who are the police going to confiscate weapons from?
they will go to everyone's house that has a gun registered in their name, they will ask everyone with a CWP to turn in their weapons, thats it. you think people that aren't supposed to have weapons are going to just waltz into the police station with them and turn them in? how is the police going to determine who has a gun that is not registered?
basically gun control ensures that only criminals will have guns because they could give a ---- about the law in the first place. it would also get rid of any kind of regulation of permits and background checks, instead of a huge screening process to buy a handgun, all you need is enough money to pay for it.
