are we among another *muscle car era*
 

Ford has the SVT line up
Chrysler has the PVO
GM has the SS
even saturn has a supercharged car out.
just about all makes of domestic vehicles has a *pumped up version* of there vehicle.

I got my new motor trend last night in the mail, Shelby has introduced the 2007 mustang already :o it has the same 5.4ltr that the ford GT packs, this thing will be insane. I cant wait to see what the cobra and the SVT has to offer. (my wife is wanting a new mustang, i think i might have to save alot of $$ while in japan for the return home)
..my point, are we among another "muscle car era"?

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perhaps, buts its new age muscle for sure.

technology owns.

I wanna see honda release a new hatchback (not like the SI's) with something over 200hp, that'd be cool ----.

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well ounce someone comes out with new supercar, they all have to try and top it. the thing is. i dont think this era is gonna pass for a long long time.


the rumors on the new 07' right out of Motor Trend

http://img174.exs.cx/img174/3676/cobramt27ve.jpg

http://img174.exs.cx/img174/7811/cobramt32ut.jpg

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^^^^haha, i have the exact same article open at this moment. thats where im getting my info from. ;)


ohh yeah, and on the CTR, according to SCC we should see a civic type R in 2006 ;) I should have one in a matter of months (not to brag :P)


lots of new cars comming out in the near future.

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They have said that the civic type r has been coming to us for years now ::)

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i hate you :P

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I work for ford here in detroit designing parts and whatnot, but I didnt get to see the shelby until the North American International auto show last week. There damn nice I must say, but by far, the Shelby was alot nicer.

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in everything ive read its always "it will be produced, its highly unlikely that we will get to see it on our sales lots" this time is "The type R will finally make it here in full strength"

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i was reading up on the new z06 on my break the other day. 500 hp 475 foot lbs. of torque.... that monster is said to run the 1/4 in 11.7 stock

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damn thats sweet as hell!!

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this is a 4 cyl mini muscle fourm NOT a v8 fourm

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...? This isn't a 4 banger forum, this is a website about turbocharging vehicles... yes, most of the cars turbocharged are 4 bangers but regardless.

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well excuse the ---- out of me

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so when is honda gonna make a car to actually try and get into the new trend of making big HP cars? the S2000 is okay but would get owned by any of these cars coming out. i think the type r has lost it's meaning, seems like now it is just a marketing tool for them. i think they should just bring back the 99 si, because everything after that has been complete crap and not to mention ugly.

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Who crammed a stick up your rectum? ::)

and jeffsciv23, I agree. They need a better looking car with much more power.

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mabey another era but the GTO kinda looks like a grand am 400hp is good though

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i don't consider any of today's new cars muscle, call me old fashioned call me stupid i just don't look at them that way

with the death of the SVT Lightning (yes it's deadd so SVT engineers could focus on the Mustang) i don't see "muscle trucks" making a huge impact either the SRT-10 is too damn expensive and the Joe Gibbs Performance SS is outpowered by the Lightning and SRT-10

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They're high performance domestic cars, but you wouldn't consider them muscle cars?

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that latest SCC SUCKED. >:(

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umm, wrong.

have you looked at the front page of this site? now you have to change your name to asshatrack48

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no, most of today's cars comes with a/c radio/ cd changers etc fuckloads of creature comforts

when the real muscle car era began people bought bare-bones stripped down models of those cars with big block options

back then the philosophy was big motor+no options+RWD+ relatively light car

today it's small motor+options+RWD+decently heavy car

yeah i know the SRT-10 and viper have the 8/8.3L V-10 but most people can't afford that, the most reasonable biggest motor available is the 5.7l or the 6l in the GTO

maybe i'm just picky or too much of a purist, i don't even consider my stang a muscle car

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I can see what you're saying. It'd be nice if you could get a bare-bones Stang or something of the like with a 500 whp motor ;D

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Word. I am reading it now and there is NOTHING in there at all except that cool little piece with the Starion in it.

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exactly today's cars are too flashy and comfortable for me to consider them muscle cars

i'd be happy with any factory car with no options (not even a/c) with a 400HP motor factory :)

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Word, I had no A/C, a broken window crank, and manual door locks in my Rex. Not to mention it road like a russian tank at times. Too bad I didn't have a 400hp engine though :-\

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haha i have no radio, no a/c, manual locks/windows, no backseat ... i'm hardcore :) hahaha

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Another muscle car era.... now that would run the world low on gas!

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Yeah, I started out with no radio and one speaker 8) Then my cousin gave me his radio and 3 speakers, that was nice. Even hooked it up to my OEM equalizer. Old Skool :P

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---- son, that's beyond old school

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what do you mean....there are cars out there like the GTO, the SRT-4, the colbalt, the new saturn, svt focus, the hemi trucks/magnum, all kinds of "muscle" out there IMO. sure its styleish, but back then flashy was a vynal bucket seat. They also had wood grain steering wheels, ---- like that in the 60's was flashy. the govt is much more regulating now, so that is kinda holding things back a bit also, imo. I think there is muscle cars all over the place. :-\

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GTO = overpriced Holden
SRT-4 = 4 cylinder, FWD
Cobalt = 4 cylinder, FWD
SVT Focus = 4 cylinder, FWD
Saturn "?" = most likely 4 cylinder, FWD

the GTO and Mustang are about the only cars even coming close to being muscle cars, ---- the GTO isn't even an American design

the mustang has a 4.6, DOHC dogg :(

SVT Lightning = no longer in production
Hemi = decent, but by no means meant to be a tire roasting 1/4 mile terror
SRT-10 = Overpriced
Joe Gibbs Performannce SS = decently priced 385HP blown 5.3 (327) bare bones truck, has the most muslcle out of the 4 in my eyes

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cadalliac has the V line.
dodge has the r/ts and SRTs
chevy has SS / Z
ford SVT

there is no real definition of what a muscle car is, but most people consider a muscle car a production car, with a big engine, lots of power, *yes they do have creature comforts*.

big engine + no suspension / brakes to handle it :-p

my SS chevelle had power steering & a/c and so did lots of other cars of the time & power windows ex...

american cars continue to dominate the affordable performance car market.

corvette
mustangs
magnum
SRT4
GTO
COLBALT SS
HEMI 300c
SS silverado
CTS-V
XLR
SRT-10 RAM
SVT lightning
grand prix GTP (new LS4 5.3l V8)
saturn ION redline
SVT focus
Monte carlo SS
impala SS
SRT Crossfire
Ford GT
Viper


even the hemi powered Jeeps, RAMS, durangos are faster than most import cars, all hondas except S2k and NSX. Hemi durangos run low 15s stock. so does the Jeep.

BTW most of these new V8 power'd cars have displacement on demand and get great gas mileage.

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the corvette, svt lightning, srt-10, gto, and the cts-v are all rather high priced, them being all over 30 grand, the svt lightning and gto at a few g's over 30, the vette's over 45 (for a bare-bones model), while the caddy is easily in the thirty's and the srt-10 over 50, not all that affordable IMO

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the SRT-10 is 43k

but thats why affordable was in italics

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i see what ur sayin, but i guess IMO nothin newer then something from 1975 will be muscle car :-*

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im tired of all the "retro" designs its just an excuse for them to copy old designs because they cant think up any new ones. i almost threw up when i saw the new mustang, i dont like mustangs to begin with but that jsut pissed me off >:(

i've seen pics of a new charger,falcon,and camaro only 1 that looks decent is the falcon(austraillian touring car)

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Time for round 3 of the muscle car era.

I was born during the first round, caught the car bug in second round, now ready for round three.

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Honda should go back down the CRX route. And everyone else needs to stop stuffing their cars with crap that a race doesn't require. If I wanted that I'd get a mini van.

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did you guys see the new z06 yet? its ------- sick 500whp, runs 11s stock, 6 piston calipers, and sticking to its heritage, shitty plastic interior, they are going to sell them for a whopping 70k lol. its 3 inches wider than standard corvettes, and there using wider wheels and tires.

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I saw a new vette up close, and it looks kinda weird IMO. It looked to high, and I prefer the old front end.