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the car had a net 10 mpg gain with the machine on. it was running somewhere at like 15% HHO. The electrolysis machine produces the gas as needed. On a factory alt the battery maintaned 12 volts. The car did not go 100 miles on water alone. but it only took 4 ounces of water and around 2.5 gallons of gas. where with the machine off it used about 4 gallons of gas. Mildy useless. The torch is cool though.

Re: water --> hydrogen fuel, didnt realize we're this close... vid
 

i got nearly that mileage in my H22 EG (47.3 MPG), its not mildly useless it is useless

Re: water --> hydrogen fuel, didnt realize we're this close... vid
 

He got that MPG on an Escort tho. Not a Honda.

Re: water --> hydrogen fuel, didnt realize we're this close... vid
 

It is less efficient, but I'd rather have a ---- ton of nuclear power plants making electricity, and dissociating water to get hydrogen than paying money into the pockets of countries that hate us for oil

Re: water --> hydrogen fuel, didnt realize we're this close... vid
 

There was another article about the system used to convert the water in his car. a -4hp alternator is what it took to convert the water and fuel it produces is more efficient and made a net gain of 17hp on the motor plus the added milage benefit. It's not a dumb idea, think of how hydro/windmill/solar technology is increasing...Coal burning plants are not the only solution.

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his car can't convert the water into hydrogen without an energy source, it could be from a battery, or the gasoline engine but he doesn't just put water in his car and go, If he could do that, the worlds energy crisis would be solved.

from what you said it seems like he is using energy from the engine spining an alternator to make electricity to convert the waer to hydrogen to add to the engine as fuel. which would be pretty inefficient, because any time you convert enrgy to a different state there are enrgy losses such as heat or friction. So all the converting is probablly inefficient.

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OMG WHERE DID YOU LEARN SIMPLE LOGIC?????

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In college but sometimes have to explain it to other people

Re: water --> hydrogen fuel, didnt realize we're this close... vid
 

Heh, somebody pointed out something in Glassman's Combustion that I missed:

Fuel cell cars are touted as clean running aka they only produce water as a byproduct... however, the simple chemistry of the situation leaves a large potential for pollutants to form since it's not merely oxygen entering the engine, and NOx gasses form based on combustion temps and not based on fuel type - still just as susceptible to those as ever.