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Old 08-09-2008, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dtrain
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thers a difference....support the troops...not the cause
yup

I actually have even more respect for those that go and risk their lives to do their job for the country despite it being a retarded cause.

I know a lot of those in the military support and believe in the cause, but not all do and they do their job anyway.

I can't stand collectors calling for money, but I don't disrespect them for doing their job.

I think its a whiney-bitch move to make that comment because he doesn't support the cause.
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Old 08-09-2008, 11:37 PM
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how are you highly disrespected by what he said?
so your saying the generals and bush are doing a great job?
i can only hope this war with russia escalates so we can get the ---- out of iraq.. and a war with clearly defined goals is all we need to make the economy skyrocket..
You really think we will just dip out of Iraq? Your ------- nuts dude.

WWII ended a long *** time ago. Guess what...I just left Okinawa, one of the major battles of WWII. I lived there for 3 years.

Iraq will never end man. The place is going to turn into a 'strategic location' for Iran and other dumb ---- countries.
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Old 08-09-2008, 11:39 PM
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This is how it began: A Georgian UAV flew into that one break away republic's airspace, a jet shot down the UAV. Georgia retaliated, bombing a Russian base and a village; they killed several Russian soldiers and 1400 civilians (many of whom are Russian citizens). Then Russia sent their bombers over to Georgia and leveled several towns...
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Yea basically this is anouther example of why the US should stop ------- around with other countries, we armed them and trained them, then their soldiers went to iraq and now have combat experience, and now we act really suprised when they start using their new tools?


oh and speaking of Okinawa, did you know that japan actually pays for most of the expense to keep those 37 bases there? I forget the actual amount but i can post it, its part of the japan security treaty, and your right those bases like the ones in Iraq are sources of revenue for states that are home to weapons manufacturing plants and other military industries, its a huge source of revenue and those companies have a powerful. lobby in washington
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Old 08-10-2008, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by enikolayev
This is how it began: A Georgian UAV flew into that one break away republic's airspace, a jet shot down the UAV. Georgia retaliated, bombing a Russian base and a village; they killed several Russian soldiers and 1400 civilians (many of whom are Russian citizens). Then Russia sent their bombers over to Georgia and leveled several towns...
that uav incident isnt what caused this? the uav was shot down last year..

georgia launched a new assault on the break away republic so russia invaded georgia


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You really think we will just dip out of Iraq? Your ------- nuts dude.

WWII ended a long *** time ago. Guess what...I just left Okinawa, one of the major battles of WWII. I lived there for 3 years.

Iraq will never end man. The place is going to turn into a 'strategic location' for Iran and other dumb ---- countries.
if a dumb ---- president gets elected then he will order us out the bad way..

but if we go to war with russia we can get out of it easilly
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Old 08-10-2008, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by junkyard racer
You really think we will just dip out of Iraq? Your ------- nuts dude.

WWII ended a long *** time ago. Guess what...I just left Okinawa, one of the major battles of WWII. I lived there for 3 years.

Iraq will never end man. The place is going to turn into a 'strategic location' for Iran and other dumb ---- countries.
you think we can fight russia while keeping troops in iraq?


Fidel Castro hints at Russian air base in Cuba
Fidel Castro has revived memories of the Cuban missile crisis by refusing to rule out the possibility of Russia constructing a new base for its nuclear bombers on the island.


By Adrian Blomfield in Moscow
Last Updated: 107AM BST 25 Jul 2008

Reports in Moscow have claimed that the Russian air force is going to resume flights of its long-range bombers to Cuba, six years after military co-operation ceased between the two countries.

In a cryptic message posted on the internet yesterday, Mr Castro praised his brother Raul, who inherited the presidency in February, for defying pressure to explain Russia’s military intentions in Cuba.

“Raul did very well keeping a dignified silence,” he wrote. “One doesn’t have to give explanations or provide excuses or apologise.”

The United States has warned Russia of serious repercussions if it went ahead with the move, raising fears that Moscow and Washington were potentially heading towards their most serious confrontation since 1962.

“We should stand strong and indicate that that is something that crosses a threshold, crosses a red line for the United States of America,” Gen Norton Schwartz told a US Senate hearing called to confirm his appointment as the US Air Force chief of staff.

Gen Schwartz’s comments appeared to have enraged Mr Castro, who accused the United States of imperial Machiavellianism and claimed that Washington was bent on Cuba’s destruction.

So far, the reports of a Russian presence on Cuba remain speculative, with the Kremlin issuing a denial and the White House refusing to comment.

Even so, the speculation is mounting since Izvestia, often used to float controversial Kremlin plans, quoted military sources as saying that the proposal was in retaliation for US plans to build a missile defence shield in central Europe, ostensibly against a nuclear strike by Iran.
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Originally Posted by signorelli21
oh and speaking of Okinawa, did you know that japan actually pays for most of the expense to keep those 37 bases there? I forget the actual amount but i can post it, its part of the japan security treaty, and your right those bases like the ones in Iraq are sources of revenue for states that are home to weapons manufacturing plants and other military industries, its a huge source of revenue and those companies have a powerful. lobby in washington
yes, I do. In fact the Okinawans gave me around $2,000usd a month to pay for my house. In turn, I put a ton of money back into there economy by shopping off base, going to restraunts off base, doing there tourism things off base (which is the Okinawan main economy BTW), not to mention that money they gave me was givin right back to the Okinawan community. The places to shop and get food on base employed thousands of local civilians (so much in fact it was hard for my American wife to get a job, on an American base) and I could go on and on about my 3 years experience living there...

and 37 bases? Okinawa has
1. Camp Foster/Butler
2. Camp Hansen
3. Camp Schwab
4. Kadena Air base
5. Fort Buckner
6. Camp Shields
7. Okuma
8. White Beach
9. Camp Kinser
10. Torri Station
11. Futenma Air Station

In mainland, you have
12. Iwakuni Air station
13. Misawa Air station
14. Yakota Air station
15. Mount Fuji training area

I really don't count 37 bases, and I didn't include the 2 step sites which only have satellites.
Can you inform me, please.
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Old 08-10-2008, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by junkyard racer
yes, I do. In fact the Okinawans gave me around $2,000usd a month to pay for my house. In turn, I put a ton of money back into there economy by shopping off base, going to restraunts off base, doing there tourism things off base (which is the Okinawan main economy BTW), not to mention that money they gave me was givin right back to the Okinawan community. The places to shop and get food on base employed thousands of local civilians (so much in fact it was hard for my American wife to get a job, on an American base) and I could go on and on about my 3 years experience living there...

and 37 bases? Okinawa has
1. Camp Foster/Butler
2. Camp Hansen
3. Camp Schwab
4. Kadena Air base
5. Fort Buckner
6. Camp Shields
7. Okuma
8. White Beach
9. Camp Kinser
10. Torri Station
11. Futenma Air Station

In mainland, you have
12. Iwakuni Air station
13. Misawa Air station
14. Yakota Air station
15. Mount Fuji training area

I really don't count 37 bases, and I didn't include the 2 step sites which only have satellites.
Can you inform me, please.
cant confirm this but wiki says

Air Force:

* Camp Chitose, Chitose, Hokkaido
* Kadena Air Base, Okinawa Prefecture
* Kadena Ammunition Storage Area, Okinawa Prefecture
* Misawa Air Base, Aomori Prefecture
* Yokota Air Base, Fussa, Tokyo
* Fuchu Communications Station, Fuchu, Tokyo
* Tama Service Annex, Inagi, Tokyo
* Yugi Communication Site, Hachioji, Tokyo
* Camp Asaka AFN Transmitter Site, Saitama Prefecture
* Tokorozawa Transmitter Site, Saitama Prefecture
* Owada Communication Site, Saitama Prefecture
* Okuma Rest Center, Okinawa Prefecture
* Yaedake Communication Site, Okinawa Prefecture
* Senaha Communication Station, Okinawa Prefecture

Army:

* Fort Buckner, Okinawa Prefecture
* Camp Zama, Zama, Kanagawa
* Yokohama North Dock, Yokohama, Kanagawa
* Sagami General Depot, Sagamihara, Kanagawa
* Sagamihara Housing Area, Sagamihara, Kanagawa
* Akizuki Ammunition Depot, Hiroshima Prefecture
* Hiro Ammunition Depot, Hiroshima Prefecture
* Kawakami Ammunition Depot, Hiroshima Prefecture
* Gesaji Communication Site, Okinawa Prefecture
* Army POL Depots, Okinawa Prefecture
* White Beach Area, Okinawa Prefecture
* Naha Port, Okinawa Prefecture
* Hardy Barracks, Roppongi, Tokyo

Marine Corps:

* Camp Smedley D. Butler, Okinawa, Yamaguchi Prefecture. Although these camps are dispersed throughout Okinawa and Japan they are all under the heading of Camp Smedley D. Butler):
o Camp Courtney
o Camp Kinser
o Marine Corps Air Station Futenma
o Camp Hansen
o Camp Schwab
o Camp Shields
o Jungle Warfare Training Center
o Camp Gonsalves
o Kin Blue Beach Training Area
o Kin Red Beach Training Area
o NSGA Hanza
o Marine Corps Air Station Iwakuni
o Camp Fuji, Shizuoka Prefecture
o Numazu Training Area, Shizuoka Prefecture
o Camp McTureous
o Yomitan Auxiliary Airfield
o Higashionna Ammunition Storage Point II
o Henoko Ordnance Ammunition Depot
* Tengan Pier
* Ie Jima Auxiliary Air Field, Okinawa Prefecture
* Tsuken Jima Training Area
* Kadena Ammunition Storage Area
* Camp Foster, Okinawa Prefecture
* Camp Lester, Okinawa Prefecture

Navy:

* Naval Air Facility Atsugi, Ayase, Kanagawa
* United States Fleet Activities Sasebo, Sasebo, Nagasaki
* United States Fleet Activities Yokosuka, Yokosuka, Kanagawa
* Urago Ammunition Depot, Yokosuka, Kanagawa Prefecture
* Tsurumi POL Depot, Yokohama, Kanagawa Prefecture
* Naval Housing Annex Negishi, Yokohama, Kanagawa Prefecture
* Naval Transmitter Station Totsuka, Yokohama, Kanagawa Prefecture
* Naval Support Facility Kamiseya, Yokohama, Kanagawa Prefecture
* Tomioka Storage Area, Yokohama, Kanagawa Prefecture
* Naval Housing Annex Ikego, Zushi, Kanagawa
* White Beach Area, Okinawa Prefecture
* Awase Communication Station, Okinawa Prefecture
* Sobe Communication Site, Okinawa Prefecture
* New Sanno Hotel, Tokyo
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Originally Posted by jay
Steves 2" is in my mouth
man, for as big as you make this ---- seem, I have yet to see anything other than whats posted on HMT by you.
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Old 08-10-2008, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by junkyard racer
man, for as big as you make this ---- seem, I have yet to see anything other than whats posted on HMT by you.
grow the ---- up...

so now your saying im on steves nuts?

last time i checked i ------- hate steve and would beat the ---- out of him if i met him irl
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