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projekteg 12-01-2004 01:19 PM

w00t mother fucking h00t!!!!!!!!!!!
 
i just ordered a techedge 2.0 wideband with display and 4m cable for 217 bucks, i forgot how cheap they were, last time i looked at them, i wasn't too sure on my electronic skills, but i'm more than confident i can put it together no problem. oh ----, i can't wait, now i have a lap top, wideband, a couple data logging ecu's, i'm good to go, by this summer, i hope to be a pretty decent tuner and probably start offering local services. damn, to think less than 2 years ago, i didn't even understand how turbo's worked or what parts were involved, now i've more or less conquered the mechanical aspect of it and plan to fully conquer the electronics side also, sorry, but i'm just really happy that i now have everything to tune with :P if anyone is interested in buying a diy wideband kit, but doesn't know how to put it together, i may start offering that service as well for a little change ;)

90accordIHI 12-01-2004 01:23 PM

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good ---- kevein, let us know, i could definitely do that, since i don't have the time or soldering skills to piece that thing together

djfob 12-01-2004 01:28 PM

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good buy 8)

TurboNX2000 12-01-2004 06:08 PM

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definitly good my buy, but if i remeber correctly Abaz was has one that cost like 290.00. Im not sure, but he said that thing had good features and tuning capabitlities. I want the one he got. Anyone know where i can get that one?

biggmike 12-01-2004 07:16 PM

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be good to my laptop :P
why u choose TE over ZT?

Reddy 12-01-2004 07:25 PM

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where did you order that WB from?

Scottsi 12-01-2004 10:23 PM

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2 years eh? i did it in 1 =P

Dr.Boost 12-01-2004 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TurboNX2000
definitly good my buy, but if i remeber correctly Abaz was has one that cost like 290.00. Im not sure, but he said that thing had good features and tuning capabitlities. I want the one he got. Anyone know where i can get that one?

www.zeitronix.com
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Honda16hb 12-01-2004 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Boost

that's the one I'll be getting when I gather enough change from the side walk and in people's couches. I'm going to get the display too because I don't feel like riding around with a laptop all the time.

projekteg 12-02-2004 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by biggmike
be good to my laptop :P
why u choose TE over ZT?

from what i've seen/heard, uberdata doesn't log the zeitronix correctly, if you're using the zeitronix display/software to log, that's fine, but i'll be using mine mostly on ubered up honda's ;)



Originally Posted by Whitey
where did you order that WB from?


it's the tech edge.....

http://www.techedge.com.au/o2order.htm




Originally Posted by Scottsi
2 years eh? i did it in 1 =P

slapping turbo kits together/chipping/tuning/p05 conversions/p06 conversions/iab conversions/auto to manual conversions/engine swaps/obd conversions/wiring/etc.

i applaud you for learning all of that in a year from not even knowing how to put a cai on at first :D

AgentMurdoc 12-02-2004 07:18 AM

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kev you ordered it from australia ???

projekteg 12-02-2004 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by AgentMurdoc
kev you ordered it from australia ???

yup ;D the conversion rate is favorable to us ;)

Chris Harris 12-02-2004 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by projekteg
from what i've seen/heard, uberdata doesn't log the zeitronix correctly, if you're using the zeitronix display/software to log, that's fine, but i'll be using mine mostly on ubered up honda's ;)

It still uses the Bosch sensor...why would it not work well with Uber?


projekteg 12-02-2004 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by xenocron
It still uses the Bosch sensor...why would it not work well with Uber?


uber get's the wb reading through the ecu via pin d14 (obd1 o2 sensor pin), which come from the wb controller, not the actual sensor, from everyone i've heard from that's used the zeitronix with uber, the values are way off, until blake includes it in the script (someone will have figure out teh voltage equation and ask blake to include it), they're going to continue to be off. it's fine if you're using the supplied zeitronix software and display for logging, or maybe even turbo edit and/or ecu contro(i'm not all that familiar with all of their capabilities), but not uberdata ;)

Honda16hb 12-02-2004 02:46 PM

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or you can just have 2 o2 sensors, one that is regular that feeds the ecu and the other to tell the wideband driver what's up.

Spenser 12-02-2004 04:00 PM

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I have the zeitronix, its the best unit out there hands down, datalogging is so pimpin.

This one time, I had the laptop going. my car was just beat to ----, I had sweat pants on and a dirty white T-shirt, and I still picked up a hottie.

projekteg 12-03-2004 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle
or you can just have 2 o2 sensors, one that is regular that feeds the ecu and the other to tell the wideband driver what's up.

i don't know what you just said, but no, that wouldn't work.



Originally Posted by Spenser
I have the zeitronix, its the best unit out there hands down, datalogging is so pimpin.


ummmmmmm, no it's really not, it's the cheapest, not teh best, and all widebands data log, that's the point, but can you data log with uberdata, no and that's the real point ::)




Originally Posted by Spenser
This one time, I had the laptop going. my car was just beat to ----, I had sweat pants on and a dirty white T-shirt, and I still picked up a hottie.


good job paul walker, is this the same hottie that you had stuffing metal shavings in your fart can exhaust a while ago? if so, good job :-X

Cray91 12-03-2004 08:50 AM

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or you can just have 2 o2 sensors, one that is regular that feeds the ecu and the other to tell the wideband driver what's up.

i don't know what you just said, but no, that wouldn't work.

ECU control can't stop CEL's and closed loop, I think you have to run a second one if you wanted to data log.

Another more usefull feature that I am not sure the TE or ziet has is a NB output.

I also totally agree with the uber support thing though. Don't wanna drop $250+ and then just have something that is a pain in the ass to use.

I am sure you will let us know how the kit works out for ya. Hopefully well, i would love to do this if it isn't too bad.

projekteg 12-03-2004 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Cray91
you can run two sensors. Think real hard and you can list a few cars that do this.

Also ECU control can't stop CEL's and closed loop, so you have to run a second one if you wanted to data log.


i'm aware, but we're talking about obd1 honda's data logging with uberdata here ;)



Originally Posted by Cray91
Another more usefull feature that I am not sure the TE or ziet has is a NB output.

has 3 0-5 volt logging ports available ;D but once again, that's not going to do you much good logging through uberdata though which is my main purpose. i personally think tech edge is one of the best units available besides the plx units, the only reason it's so cheap is b/c it's the diy kit, take a look at the price of the pre assembled kits :P ;)

Spenser 12-03-2004 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by projekteg

Originally Posted by Spenser
I have the zeitronix, its the best unit out there hands down, datalogging is so pimpin.


ummmmmmm, no it's really not, it's the cheapest, not teh best, and all widebands data log, that's the point, but can you data log with uberdata, no and that's the real point ::)

umm, no, alot of the units do not datalog. The zeitronix is also not the cheapest. I don't know of a better overall unit. the zeitronix also has more features then the lm1, fjo, aem, etc. if you want me to post up some links for you, i'll sure do it.


Originally Posted by Spenser
This one time, I had the laptop going. my car was just beat to ----, I had sweat pants on and a dirty white T-shirt, and I still picked up a hottie.


Originally Posted by projekteg
good job paul walker, is this the same hottie that you had stuffing metal shavings in your fart can exhaust a while ago? if so, good job :-X

it was a joke nucca, relax. ::)

projekteg 12-03-2004 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Spenser
umm, no, alot of the units do not datalog. The zeitronix is also not the cheapest. I don't know of a better overall unit. the zeitronix also has more features then the lm1, fjo, aem, etc. if you want me to post up some links for you, i'll sure do it.

there aren't too many wb controllers that don't data log that i'm aware of, what the ---- would be the point? lm1 is plx's most basic unit, if zeitronix had a line of products like plx does, i'm sure it would have a lower end model as well, fjo is not a bad unit at all:

0-5 volt Linear Output - Linear output works with broad range of dynos, ECU's, and data recorders
Single-Leanest Channel Output Mode - Two gauges too much? Put the dual-channel version in single-leanest mode and always display the leanest channel on one gauge
0-1 Volt Narrowband Oxygen Sensor Simulator - Now you don't have to weld in a new bung! Just connect this output to the factory ECU and put the wideband sensor in place of the stock narrowband.
20,000 RPM Recording Range - Datalog even on the highest-revving engines
Datalog Any 0-5v Input - In addition to AFR, you can record up to two other sensors--TPS, MAP, or even two EGTs with the EGT adapter kit
Real Units on Auxilary Display - Datalogging software records actual units of input sensors (pressure, temperature, percent, etc.
and the aem uego just plain out sucks unless you're a ricer. i never said the zeitronix wasn't a good unit, i just said it's by far the best, and from what i'm aware of, it's the lowest priced 'decent' assembled unit out there. you're just partial to it b/c you own it. it is nice and i would not mind having one if it was 100% functional with uberdata, but if you compare the two, tit for tat, i think the tech edge is nicer. the main selling point for the zeitronix is it's nice display.

Spenser 12-03-2004 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by projekteg
there aren't too many wb controllers that don't data log that i'm aware of, what the ---- would be the point? lm1 is plx's most basic unit, if zeitronix had a line of products like plx does, i'm sure it would have a lower end model as well, fjo is not a bad unit at all:

The AEM doesnt log, the wego doesn't log, half the plxs don't log, the lm1 is made by innovate motorsports not plx, and it does log, but only internally, plus its huge and the display eats ass.

I'm partial to the zeitronix because I believe it is the best one. The zeitronix has more features then the FJO, or any other unit out there that I know of. I see that in your case, since uberdata is having some difficulty with it, it's not an option, but if uberdata did use it, or ifthis was for any other application, you'd be hard pressed to find a better unit.

I also hear that there is alot of problems with the techedge.

projekteg 12-03-2004 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Spenser
I also hear that there is alot of problems with the techedge.

from who, zeitronix users ;) seriously though, i've compared all of them b/c i was going to get a zeitronix b/c of the price regardless of the uber issues, they'll be worked out soon enough guranteed, and for just a couple bucks more, i could have that instead of teh tech edge and not have to assemble it, but in my opinion, the tech edge and plx are the best units.

Spenser 12-03-2004 10:59 AM

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why are the plx and tech edge the best?

Cray91 12-03-2004 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Spenser
why are the plx and tech edge the best?

I don't know if they are the best, but they work with uberdata out of the box, and I have heard only good things from the owners of them.

The zie' could work with uberdata, it is just a matter of someone entering in the functions that it uses. IMO it may be a while because most people who want bargain basement will get the TE, and people who don't mind spending a little more will go to to the PLX or the Innovative or any of the other higher priced ones.

projekteg 12-03-2004 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Spenser
why are the plx and tech edge the best?

i said in my opinion, compare the fjo, zeitronix, plx m300, and tech edge 2a0, then read other users reviews/experiences etc., it's called RESEARCH and i did mine and decided to go with the tech edge, the end. besides, you have yet to show me a comparable unit to the zeitronix that cost less, quit kidding yourself, you got it because it was the cheapest and now you love it, i'm glad the story has a happy ending :)

Spenser 12-03-2004 11:15 AM

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umm project teg, Every unit out there that datalogs is cheaper then the zeitronix, if you get the display, if you don't get the display, and use your laptop as the display/logger, its the cheapest logger. mine came total of 300 with the egt option, and without the display. :-*

you quit kidding yourself, you only got the australian piece of ---- cause its the cheapest. ::)

Cray91 12-03-2004 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Spenser
umm project teg, Every unit out there that datalogs is cheaper then the zeitronix, if you get the display, if you don't get the display, and use your laptop as the display/logger, its the cheapest logger. mine came total of 300 with the egt option, and without the display. :-*

you quit kidding yourself, you only got the australian piece of ---- cause its the cheapest. ::)

learn to use punctuation correctly. What the hell are you trying to say about the display??

projekteg 12-03-2004 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Spenser
umm project teg, Every unit out there that datalogs is cheaper then the zeitronix, if you get the display. :-*

you quit kidding yourself, you only got the australian piece of ---- cause its the cheapest. ::)

ok, now you're just blatantly showing your lack of information on the other units, i think you can pretty much label yourself pwnd :P



fjo:

bare unit (no displasy, no sensor) = 273
unit with display (no sensor)= 465
unit with data logging (no sensor, no display) = 588
unit with data logging and display (no sensor) = 717


tech edge:

complete assembled 2a0 with senosor, unit, cable, display, etc. = 520


plx:

m500 (most comparable to the units in comparison) complete with software, display, sensor, cable, etc. = 499


zeitronix:

complete with sensor, harness, wb unit, all software, cables, etc. = 399 (cheapest)



Honda16hb 12-03-2004 12:51 PM

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so what did you get the other one?

projekteg 12-03-2004 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle
so what did you get the other one?

no, i bought the diy kit, where you get the board and all components to put it toghether yourself, if i bought it already assembled, it would have been 2 hundred dollars more, i can do that ---- myself in an hour.

Honda16hb 12-03-2004 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by projekteg
i can do that ---- myself in an hour.

projekteg could do it in 10 minutes, he's crazy.

projekteg 12-03-2004 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle
projekteg could do it in 10 minutes, he's crazy.


i agree, he probably could, and yes, he's one crazy black man, but it will probably take me an hour

Spenser 12-03-2004 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by projekteg

Originally Posted by Spenser
umm project teg, Every unit out there that datalogs is cheaper then the zeitronix, if you get the display. :-*

you quit kidding yourself, you only got the australian piece of ---- cause its the cheapest. ::)

ok, now you're just blatantly showing your lack of information on the other units, i think you can pretty much label yourself pwnd :P



fjo:

bare unit (no displasy, no sensor) = 273
unit with display (no sensor)= 465
unit with data logging (no sensor, no display) = 588
unit with data logging and display (no sensor) = 717


tech edge:

complete assembled 2a0 with senosor, unit, cable, display, etc. = 520


plx:

m500 (most comparable to the units in comparison) complete with software, display, sensor, cable, etc. = 499


zeitronix:

complete with sensor, harness, wb unit, all software, cables, etc. = 399 (cheapest)



Ok, so what are we arguing again? That the zeitronix has more features, a nicer display, and costs less then the LM1, PLX, Tech Edge, and FJO? Or that I"m cheap cause I bought the ~200 dollar ---- box? ::)

All I"m saying is that in terms of capabilities(aside from the issue with uberdata) that the zeitronix is the best unit even with out factoring in price. Once Cost vs value comes into play, it owns hands down.

also, the basemodel(displayless) zeitronix is 9 dollars more expensive then the FJO base model, so you are wrong again.

projekteg 12-03-2004 02:28 PM

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compare features, how is zeitronix better? you're an idiot, the end.

ComputerJLT 12-05-2004 02:54 AM

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---- zeitronix

techedge kicks all their asses :)

i miss my 2a0; i'll probably buy another one if i cant find an uber cheap used wbo2

for $280 you get a zeitronix bundle with NO dislpay and you have to use a computer to see your afr; or you have to spend another $120 on a freakin display. I've seen a video of the zeitronix display and i wasn't impressed. its hard to read and you have to make a point to look at it. The te display is painfully simple and you can watch your afr out of the corner of your eye; and its INCLUDED with your sub $200 kit. all you have to do is order a $35 sensor from a vw dealer and i got mine in 2 days.

They both have datalogging; both have good software and the TE has scads of support behind it and people that can help you with any problem you may have.

While the te kit is a lot to put together the instructions are great and anyone with a good soldering iron and a bit of experience can put it together.

baldur 12-05-2004 09:52 AM

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The only proper wideband kit is made by NTK and costs about $400 IIRC, the sensor costs about $600


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