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smok3y_b4r3 02-04-2006 12:47 PM

vtec killer cams?
 
sounds like a complete waste of money to me, anyone know any specs on these?

Tom-Guy 02-04-2006 01:07 PM

Re: vtec killer cams?
 
What's a waste of money about wanting to drop weight and complexity by doing away with V-Tech??


buk9tp 02-04-2006 01:17 PM

Re: vtec killer cams?
 
look, its jd
http://discharges.org/h/409/













:P

87na_rx7 02-04-2006 01:42 PM

Re: vtec killer cams?
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
What's a waste of money about wanting to drop weight and complexity by doing away with V-Tech??


how much eight could you really save? then you sacrifice your low end drivability and power

HMTguy 02-04-2006 01:43 PM

Re: vtec killer cams?
 

Originally Posted by Rx7toCivic
how much eight could you really save? then you sacrifice your low end drivability and power

These are not made for daily drivers, they're made for race cars.

jinxy 02-04-2006 01:44 PM

Re: vtec killer cams?
 

Originally Posted by buk9tp

OMFG< whatever you do dont go to the main page on that website, DISGUSTING>

buk9tp 02-04-2006 01:48 PM

Re: vtec killer cams?
 

Originally Posted by rawr
OMFG< whatever you do dont go to the main page on that website, DISGUSTING>

lmao now everyone will :P

just take out the number 409 to get to the directory but im not posting a link, im not getting banned :1

Tatakai 02-04-2006 02:02 PM

Re: vtec killer cams?
 
the name for them is really deceiving. they are for race cars with high idles.

why wait for X rpm for vtec to engage, when you can have it always on? it eliminates that "lag" of no vtec, especially since if it's a race car, it wont be doing anything less than 5K even for launches

ef8 h0! 02-04-2006 03:23 PM

Re: vtec killer cams?
 

Originally Posted by buk9tp

dude why the ---- is there gay porn there? wtf?

dai the flu 02-04-2006 03:41 PM

Re: vtec killer cams?
 
yo ho, thats a nice bowl.

smok3y_b4r3 02-04-2006 03:53 PM

Re: vtec killer cams?
 

Originally Posted by Tatakai
the name for them is really deceiving. they are for race cars with high idles.

why wait for X rpm for vtec to engage, when you can have it always on? it eliminates that "lag" of no vtec, especially since if it's a race car, it wont be doing anything less than 5K even for launches

i see

buk9tp 02-04-2006 04:04 PM

Re: vtec killer cams?
 

Originally Posted by ef8 h0!
dude why the ---- is there gay porn there? wtf?

there is no gay porn there...

u shudnt be messing with links i paste :1

Guy-Fast 02-04-2006 04:31 PM

Re: vtec killer cams?
 
Simple get rid of vtechhhhhhhhhh not needed on drag all motor cars. Unless you have a motor that is gonn make 260+ all motor whp look elsewhere. Proably 30 motors ever built thta can actually make power with them. Oh and there a bitch to idle

Tatakai 02-04-2006 04:41 PM

Re: vtec killer cams?
 

Originally Posted by chris
Simple get rid of vtechhhhhhhhhh not needed on drag all motor cars. Unless you have a motor that is gonn make 260+ all motor whp look elsewhere. Proably 30 motors ever built thta can actually make power with them. Oh and there a bitch to idle

ya, you basically run warm idle at like 1500rpm :S

Guy-Fast 02-04-2006 04:52 PM

Re: vtec killer cams?
 

Originally Posted by Tatakai
ya, you basically run warm idle at like 1500rpm :S

Higher than that. 500+lift you better have some compression and some wicked port work

ef8 h0! 02-04-2006 05:25 PM

Re: vtec killer cams?
 

Originally Posted by dai the flu
yo ho, thats a nice bowl.

:6


Originally Posted by buk9tp
there is no gay porn there...

u shudnt be messing with links i paste :1

lol, i know that now. ::) :1

Donald125 02-04-2006 05:50 PM

Re: vtec killer cams?
 
a few good one

this one looks too real ???
http://discharges.org/h/508/

http://discharges.org/h/404/
http://discharges.org/h/501/
http://discharges.org/h/503/
http://discharges.org/h/405/
http://discharges.org/h/205/
http://discharges.org/h/906/
http://discharges.org/h/802/
http://discharges.org/h/706/
http://discharges.org/h/605/

Tom-Guy 02-04-2006 08:04 PM

Re: vtec killer cams?
 

Originally Posted by Rx7toCivic
how much eight could you really save?

Ask Bisi - he sites the inordinately large amount of reciprocating mass and rotational friction found in the VTEC heads, which is why he went F-series. Can you say 400 hp and 289 tq on GAS, son? That hasn't been done on OMG WTF JDM VTECH, not even for a $$$ engine you rebuild after every four trips down the 1/4 mile, and there is a reason for it. Take off the TurboD16 cap and put on your thinking cap, see if you can tell me why that is. :1



Originally Posted by Rx7toCivic
then you sacrifice your low end drivability and power

While VTEC heads just sacrifice low end power... which is why stock ITR engines vs equivalent CR LS engines, with the LS running cams that are "inferior" to the ITR's *cough* 404's *cough*, always sees the LS making same or better peak hp and making a ---- ton more power under peak.

VTEC heads are hogged out, lazy flowing piles of piss from the factory. Why wouldn't you want to get rid of anything having to do with VTEC on one? VTEC is just a good idle, who cares about anything like that? I swear, I don't understand you kids today... in the old days, a lot more real men walked the earth, and in those days we matched camshaft to headflow to create both peak as well as broad, usable powerbands without faggot concerns like not having fourteen times the peak power to usable midrange, or good idles.

Ever seen a FE engine beating the goddamn ground - at idle - so hard you were amazed it didn't shatter every window in the car?

90dx 02-04-2006 08:19 PM

Re: vtec killer cams?
 
What is a FE engine?

raiden571 02-04-2006 08:33 PM

Re: vtec killer cams?
 
id rather have a boodted lsvtec then a plain out boosted ls. people see gains all the time by just changing to a vtec head.

mycrx 02-04-2006 08:34 PM

Re: vtec killer cams?
 

Originally Posted by buk9tp
look, its jd
http://discharges.org/h/409/

another dumbass post brought to you by buk, 2 words ---- OFF











:P


Dr.Boost 02-04-2006 09:08 PM

Re: vtec killer cams?
 

Originally Posted by Donald125
a few good one

this one looks too real ???
http://discharges.org/h/508/

Ummm....the gun never went off. :l
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Tom-Guy 02-04-2006 09:48 PM

Re: vtec killer cams?
 
buk, I could give you a simple explaination of how VTEC works on a Honduh engine, but you'd be mislead. You really have to sift through camshaft theory and how various cams work, headflow and port velocity nonsense, and then think long and hard for the why and how of VTEC. It allows factory engines to have good gas mileage, good emissions, and yet be able to make a blistering 15 second pass at the track... when other gas sippers are stuck in the 17-18's, dog. It isn't all that.... the solid engineering behind Honduh engines is more to blame for the power and robustness of the platform than a sissy second cam profile.


Originally Posted by 90dx
What is a FE engine?

http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~stanchfi/specs.html

Preferrably in the 428 cid displacement, kthx


Originally Posted by raiden571
id rather have a boodted lsvtec then a plain out boosted ls. people see gains all the time by just changing to a vtec head.

You mean changes "at the same psi," which means absolutely nothing. Why do we compare intake manifold pressure to atmospheric pressure?? It's a BS measurement, indicative of nothing worth knowing. At the end of the day, you can drop $$$$ on trying to get "hp per psi," or you can do things simply - brute force induction of airmass, and then dealing with the thermal consequences. Which can be accomplished for less than the price of a VTEC head...

dai the flu 02-04-2006 10:33 PM

Re: vtec killer cams?
 
yo wtf is this???????? http://www.oculart.com/

Guy-Fast 02-05-2006 12:28 AM

Re: vtec killer cams?
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Ask Bisi - he sites the inordinately large amount of reciprocating mass and rotational friction found in the VTEC heads, which is why he went F-series. Can you say 400 hp and 289 tq on GAS, son? That hasn't been done on OMG WTF JDM VTECH, not even for a $$$ engine you rebuild after every four trips down the 1/4 mile, and there is a reason for it. Take off the TurboD16 cap and put on your thinking cap, see if you can tell me why that is. :1


While VTEC heads just sacrifice low end power... which is why stock ITR engines vs equivalent CR LS engines, with the LS running cams that are "inferior" to the ITR's *cough* 404's *cough*, always sees the LS making same or better peak hp and making a ---- ton more power under peak.

VTEC heads are hogged out, lazy flowing piles of piss from the factory. Why wouldn't you want to get rid of anything having to do with VTEC on one? VTEC is just a good idle, who cares about anything like that? I swear, I don't understand you kids today... in the old days, a lot more real men walked the earth, and in those days we matched camshaft to headflow to create both peak as well as broad, usable powerbands without faggot concerns like not having fourteen times the peak power to usable midrange, or good idles.

Ever seen a FE engine beating the goddamn ground - at idle - so hard you were amazed it didn't shatter every window in the car?



But JD kids these days dont like motors that make power below 5500 rpm. Gotta have the vtecccc bahhhhhhh!!

Tom-Guy 02-05-2006 01:02 AM

Re: vtec killer cams?
 
Since it is airmass that matters, and not volumetric faggot efficiency, I should graphs between turbo'd LS and OMG VTECH engines based on peak airmass figures in g/rev. I think that would illustrate my point nicely... the LS would make HUGE power across the band and "the same" peak power as the WTF VTECH equipped (crippled?) engine, whereas the OMG VTECH engine would be all peaky and suck and stuff.

Oddly, turbo compressor maps are also expressed in airmass... maybe I'm on to something here??? Nah, couldn't be. Never.

smok3y_b4r3 02-05-2006 01:23 AM

Re: vtec killer cams?
 
ummm thanks :y


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