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70Challenger 12-18-2005 01:11 PM

Vortex Generators???? What is this crap???
 
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Ok so I kept reading about "vortex generators" on the next installment of the Evos, and they seems to be popping up on the "mods" list of cars on cardomain and such, so what are these? Do cars really think they are airplanes? First wings, now vortex generators? Here is the article on the new Evo, under "exterior" it lists a vortex generator which "creates small vortices that reduce drag and increase the down force generated by the rear-deck spoiler"

http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/lancer_evo_ix.asp

and heres a company thats selling them:

http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/p...oducts_id/6467


Heres what they look like:

Attachment 36919

Anyone have any info about these, or if they actually do anything, they just seem like one more "JdM cARbOn fiB3R" part for a new ricer fad to me


myshtern 12-18-2005 01:17 PM

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Pretty sure it wont do ----,

Ravage70 12-18-2005 01:39 PM

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thats new age time travel

didnt u ever read up on the theory of relativity?

rollmodel 12-18-2005 03:18 PM

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the 'vg's' or vortex generators were developed to take the air coming over the roof and help direct it towards the wing, exactly what you said. mitsubishi did a lot of research on this... and what they came up with is that they do affect the air towards the wing... how much... oh like like a factor of 1x 10^-15, (mt butt dyno is not that accurate yet) about the same amount that the type r valve cover makes your car any faster.. is that worth the 250+ bucks for them.... for me.. ---- no

they techincally do work.. according to research, but this could possibly be the reason that mitsubishi goes under though...


check out the new 06 sti, subaru did a similar thing only with what looks like a wing from a 85 chevy blazer on the roof



Scott-EP 12-18-2005 03:19 PM

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on airplanes they help create lift at slower speeds. so i really dont think they will do anything on a car other than lessen your top speed

accordepicenter 12-18-2005 03:26 PM

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ive heard from several evo owners that it noticeably improves the cars high speed stability

fork 12-18-2005 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by accordepicenter
ive heard from several evo owners that it noticeably improves the cars high speed stability

they are lying

hebijake 12-18-2005 05:15 PM

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if anything i can see it making the car wobble less at high speeds' keeping air pushing the car side to side and running past the fins making it travel in a straighter more stable path... but i'm not sure if it make's the car handle any better than those carbon fiber fins that people put running up the side's of their front bumper's do...... ???

rollmodel 12-18-2005 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fork
they are lying

or they have highly sensitive butt dynos..


they should try some placebo's that I have laying around. they are good for many things, building muscles, curing cancer and even penial enlargement.. i am sure they would work for them...

;)

idiot-stick 12-18-2005 05:35 PM

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They increase the rear spoiler's efficiency from zero to nothing.

70Challenger 12-18-2005 08:56 PM

Re: Vortex Generators???? What is this crap???
 

Originally Posted by accordepicenter
ive heard from several evo owners that it noticeably improves the cars high speed stability

they are most likely just trying to justify the fact that they spent so much cash for it...

Donald125 12-18-2005 10:04 PM

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the one that came with the MR clamis to increase downforce by 35% at 110mph + and 2% or more at 60 mph
but every testdriving artical i`ve seen said the difference are not noticable. :l

98ctr 12-20-2005 10:42 AM

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hmm, I was just talking to my friend Justin Ellin (2004 USTCC rookie of the year) about that on my other friends EVO. We were debating over the fact of it working or not and why it would or not. He seemed to think that it works better than people think. And I think I would have to agree with him. Myself comming from an aviation background have seen and worked with similar parts on the top of the wings of air planes.

The air speed is defenetlly a big difference between a car and an airplane, but the vortex generators are also a lot smaller on the wings of airplanes.

So in my personal experiece, I belive that they do more than people seem to think. Especially at over 60 mph. But thats just my own oppinion. ???

FastLS 12-20-2005 12:54 PM

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Next time you guys do a run from 100mph - 120mph you'll be wishing you had one of these... /sarcasm

Stupid. We are merging the 'race car' + 'street car' image too much now.

JDMFantasy2K 12-20-2005 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rollmodel

they techincally do work.. according to research, but this could possibly be the reason that mitsubishi goes under though...



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