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Turblow 01-20-2007 12:57 PM

TRACTION!! Which Tires Are The BEST For The STREET
 
I ran about 300whp through my 1st gen 205mm azenis last year and traction sucked, anything above 5k in 1st-3rd was spinning. Even from a roll 3rd would sometimes still spin a good bit.
I was thinking of getting the newer azenis but dont know if they would even be much better. They dont last a hell of a long time but I dont drive the car more than 10k a year anyways

This will be for a daily driven summer Crx. Looking for anything to fit my 15X7 rotas and a 3" drop

How do you guys get traction?

Thanks

mike94se 01-20-2007 01:00 PM

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Mickey Thompson

90dx 01-20-2007 01:31 PM

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Drag radials are the only thing that is gonna work at that hp level.BFG or Nitto are about your only choice unless you want to stuff a 235 MT under there.

RENR 01-20-2007 01:42 PM

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A 235 is not gona fit with a 3" drop. get some 225/50/15 bfg's and youll never look back

BigWheeze 01-20-2007 02:05 PM

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wrinkle walls. Just dont get caught.

samson 01-20-2007 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BigWheeze
wrinkle walls. Just dont get caught.

LOL.



Originally Posted by RENR
A 235 is not gona fit with a 3" drop. get some 225/50/15 bfg's and youll never look back

I agree. You can daily drive on DR's, but I've heard (from SkinnyE?) that driving in the rain is going to be a pretty slow commute. FastCRX DD his CRX on DRs, but with winter I don't think now though. My buddy cut 1.98 60' on BFGs so they're pretty good when matched with a good driver and other components (i.e., traction bars, solid/filled mounts, etc.)



Originally Posted by 90dx
Drag radials are the only thing that is gonna work at that hp level.BFG or Nitto are about your only choice unless you want to stuff a 235 MT under there.


Never heard anything good about Nitto N555's or whatever they are.


JP

cberman 01-20-2007 04:08 PM

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i use the new style azenis on my car all year long....its just scary as ---- to drive when its raining or snowing....they hydroplane like crazy on wet surfaces, but are awesome on dry

jinxy 01-20-2007 04:17 PM

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some 25 dollar hanooks

RedCavz 01-20-2007 04:28 PM

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just roll a regular nice summer tire for the street and then have a pair of steelies with some bfg drag radials mounted on them when you want to go out on weekends and beat on the car. Leaving drag radials on the car full-time won't do you any good since they wear out faster than tough guy's -----.

ososlohatch 01-20-2007 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 98redcavz24
just roll a regular nice summer tire for the street and then have a pair of steelies with some bfg drag radials mounted on them when you want to go out on weekends and beat on the car. Leaving drag radials on the car full-time won't do you any good since they wear out faster than tough guy's -----.

damn that ---- wore out fast too

fearsomedan 01-20-2007 06:53 PM

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Even with drag radials, I believe you still have to do a burn out in order to heat them up to get any traction. I do on my nittos anyway.

Oscar 01-20-2007 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rawr
some 25 dollar hanooks

:y

stillnoturbo 01-20-2007 09:16 PM

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yoko advan A048's. I used them with VX's and even in the rain I got traction. I heard the Hankook RS2's are supposed to be pretty good.

Tom-Guy 01-20-2007 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Turblow
I ran about 300whp through my 1st gen 205mm azenis last year and traction sucked, anything above 5k in 1st-3rd was spinning.

Combined with:


Originally Posted by Turblow
3" drop

Leads me to believe that your alignment and suspension is a joke.

Alignment > tire selection at this juncture, grasshopper. A 3" drop is where the traction isn't, my friend. :(

Bizzar 01-20-2007 11:57 PM

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BFG G-force KDW's

icarusdown 01-21-2007 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Combined with:

Leads me to believe that your alignment and suspension is a joke.

Alignment > tire selection at this juncture, grasshopper. A 3" drop is where the traction isn't, my friend. :(

agreed.
'

do these power levels/problems benefit from LSD over open diff as well?

W O T 01-21-2007 09:03 AM

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Im pretty sure my alignment was ----, as I have some bad camber wear on the azenis

Do you think with just a good alignment the new azenis would be good enough?

Dibble 01-21-2007 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bizzar
BFG G-force KDW's

Or ET streets.

Racintweek 01-21-2007 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by W O T
Im pretty sure my alignment was ----, as I have some bad camber wear on the azenis

Do you think with just a good alignment the new azenis would be good enough?


like JD said , you need to get your alignment in check. since an alginment is in order dont buy the tires yet because you might not have to.

i have no experience w/ azenis but from watching other people, even 200hp road course cars have a hard time hooking up coming out of corners onto the straights

90dx 01-21-2007 01:29 PM

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Get a camber kit and a alignment done then put some drag radials on.

J-MAN 01-21-2007 07:20 PM

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so if you were to put some DR's on a street car thats only driven in th edry times how fast would they wear out?

yayopwrcrx 01-21-2007 07:42 PM

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my boy had pilot sport cups on his car that he drove every day and tracked on the weekends....
that was rear drive though

90dx 01-21-2007 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffsciv23
so if you were to put some DR's on a street car thats only driven in th edry times how fast would they wear out?

Generally any high performance tire will only last 5-10K miles at most.Basically if you have reg 4 seasons there and odnt drive it in winter expect to replace them yearly.This is the price you pay for trying to get traction in a fwd turbo car :-\

FooK 01-21-2007 08:27 PM

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bf goodrich mud terrain :-*

stillnoturbo 01-21-2007 09:19 PM

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New tires are overrated. I like finding used road race tires on ebay. Just find the ones that are DOT approved or some road race tires for rainy/wet conditions. ---- Azenis or drag radials. I drove on my old Advan race tires on my hatch that was my daily driver from the last piece of snow melted in the spring till the first one fell in fall. All day everyday. People at my work were like...um Henry I think you need some new tires cause their looking pretty bald. I'm naw their just getting good. :6 This guy usually has a bigger selection for cheap. It's where I got my tires. http://stores.ebay.com/Race-Tires-USDRRT

stillnoturbo 01-21-2007 09:30 PM

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I found these but probably abit too beefy but hell their dirt cheap.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-Y...QQcmdZViewItem

udaredme 01-21-2007 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by stillnoturbo
New tires are overrated. I like finding used road race tires on ebay. Just find the ones that are DOT approved or some road race tires for rainy/wet conditions. ---- Azenis or drag radials. I drove on my old Advan race tires on my hatch that was my daily driver from the last piece of snow melted in the spring till the first one fell in fall. All day everyday. People at my work were like...um Henry I think you need some new tires cause their looking pretty bald. I'm naw their just getting good. :6 This guy usually has a bigger selection for cheap. It's where I got my tires. http://stores.ebay.com/Race-Tires-USDRRT

wow..that dudes shipping is HIGH!! 50 bux n change shipping per tire...I plan on running my 30 dollar cheap ole hankook 14" tires mostly..and have a spare set of wheels which im putting a set of drag radials on..and just switch em out when the time arises...

J-MAN 01-22-2007 12:47 PM

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i need some better traction tires for the street, right now i have some kumho's and i loose traction at the top of first everytime. i have some 22" slicks mounted on some other rims but i can't really roll those around town.

W O T 01-22-2007 07:46 PM

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For 300ish whp what is recomended? Would azenis and a good alignment work ok?

Im curious if my alignment and camber was just fucked up and I didnt have enough rubber in the ground, azenis are cheap and easy compared to the BFG's

mike94se 01-22-2007 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mike94se
Mickey Thompson


E-b0la 01-22-2007 09:26 PM

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JD's right. Jack that ---- back up to maybe a 1.0 to 1.5 drop and get a camber kit. At 3.0 inches of drop, without any camber, the inside half of the tire is going to be doing the work.

For street driving I liked my Yokohama ES100's, they felt good in the corners. But then again I don't have 300HP :'(

90dx 01-22-2007 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by W O T
For 300ish whp what is recomended? Would azenis and a good alignment work ok?

Im curious if my alignment and camber was just fucked up and I didnt have enough rubber in the ground, azenis are cheap and easy compared to the BFG's

FIX THE HOODRAT SPECIAL SLAM,GET A CAMBER KIT AND SOME DRAG RADIALS.AZENIS WILL NOT WORK.DRAG RADIALS,DRAG RADIALS,DRAG RADIALS.

Toysrme 01-22-2007 09:44 PM

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Mickey Thompson's are.

For actual tires that are useable.
Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3's are ungodly.

Nothing will touch their wet traction. Very little is in the same league in dry traction. The tires that are in the same league in dry traction do not have close to the wet traction, or the actual treadwear life.

Tom-Guy 01-22-2007 10:14 PM

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Raise the ass end back to stock, lower front 0.75", and install limiters that don't let your nose lift higher than 0 degrees camber under power, and limiters that keep the ass end from squatting. Welcome to traction.

stillnoturbo 01-22-2007 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by udaredme
wow..that dudes shipping is HIGH!! 50 bux n change shipping per tire...I plan on running my 30 dollar cheap ole hankook 14" tires mostly..and have a spare set of wheels which im putting a set of drag radials on..and just switch em out when the time arises...

Most of those were pairs if not sets. He doesn't sell single tires if I remember.

udaredme 01-22-2007 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by stillnoturbo
Most of those were pairs if not sets. He doesn't sell single tires if I remember.


copied from the auction...shipping is the price X2...


PLEASE CHECK SHIPPING RATE WITH THE E-BAY CALCULATOR X 2 TO YOUR ZIPCODE BEFORE YOU BID
Tires are bulky and can be costly to ship.

These ship singlely One per OVERSIZED Box
Shipping will be the "Calculated (single box) rate" X 2
E-bay has no provision for calculating TWO boxes to the same address
Hence the need for the 2 x calculation
Sometimes shipping is a bit less than the e-bay calculated rate x 2 . If so I will adjust the shipping cost DOWN (never up) at the close of the sale when I send the invoice.

soooo....$50 x 2 = $100

stillnoturbo 01-23-2007 12:26 AM

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Ehh...my set of Advan A048's were under 200 shipped when I got them from him awhile ago. He didn't box them and just taped tags onto them with my shipping info. But hell it's race rubber and not some street rubber. It's a night and day difference. My Azenis felt like some old all season tires compared to them.


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