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well, there was a dyno day here in town on saturday and i wasn't planning on running b/c it was 40 bucks for two pulls :-\ well, when i got there, there was no one there and i kind of felt bad for the guy for devoting his saturday at the request of local rice....... errrrrrr, i mean racers, so i decided to run. 236.5 whp 176.8 tq :P not too bad numbers i guess, this was on 12 psi with stock cat, 2.5" crush bent dp, and 2.25 after cat pipe. if i ditch the cat and run a full 2.5" mandrel exhaust, i think i'll pick up at least 10 whp, and with stock clutch too. i think with exhaust, new clutch, and some tuning, i could hit 260 whp easily on the same psi. i'll scan my dyno sheet in later and maybe even put the video if you're lucky ;)


http://www.newbieforces.com/files/dy...4444444444.jpg

you can see i went a little lean between 5 and 7k, i thought it was a lot worse for some reason, at first in boost it was staying right at around 12 i was pretty surprised when i was watching it, then it started climbing a little but dropped back down. could definitely use a little tuning. as far as the video, it prolly sucks, but it's better than nothing. you can see the afr on the bottom of the screen.

YOU MUST RIGHT CLICK AND SAVE OR IT WON'T WORK!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.gameroom.com/projekteg/dyno%20002.avi

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I wanna see the video! put some street footage in there while your at it :P

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Nice numbers. I still can't believe you're running 12psi on that stock b16. :o

Stan

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i was hoping for around 250, but considering my exhaust set up (lack of), i'm not surprised i didn't reach it. this is also with no tuning, my afr went a little lean between 5 and 7k and reache 13.5:1 at 6k, i wasn't too concerened, leaner is meaner ;D :P ---- it, i'll push 14 psi on this bitch with some tuning, i've got a spare b18 block, that will just motivate me to build it ;)

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bump for video and pic :P

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some dude here in winnipeg hit 344 whp on 12 psi on a mustang dyno i thing, no timing retard maybe even timing advance who knows, it granaded after 2-3 months i thing but f@ck 344@12psi on a stock b16 so they can hold alot of power turn up the boost man ;D

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i plan on it as soon as i get my afr's in check, also i'm running 1* retard per psi, that's quite a bit of retard, there's a lot of power to pull out of it, i just need to get a good tune and adress the other issues i mentioned. i don't think i will have a problem reaching 300 whp safely at about 14-15 psi.

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Nice #'s

I always like to see a good engine pushed to its limits!!!

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Cool video. I'm still surprised with the boost. Where do you live again? it's definately projekteg vs. stan now. ;D

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There are a lot of stock block B-series engines with 300 hp...It's nothing special.

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no where near canada you silly cannuck ;) why are you surprised with the boost? you're just a boost -----, weren't you only running 5 psi with an uberdata basemap? i was running 5 psi with no management except for a coolant sensor hanging in my engine bay and my dizzy retarded. i've hit 15 psi on my basemap. quit being a lilte girl stan. ;D

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damn nice stuff there teggy, what no riding the clutch.... i mean 'burnout' videos :D

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i'll get some 'rapin' it videos one day, my camera sucks so it has to be day light to record :P i plan to make a video of the worlds longest burn out when i get a new clutch. i'll just buy some spare tires on steelies and roast em off ;D

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Very nice numbers and there is still untapped power 8)

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Great base numbers man, a little tune and you will be set.

Looks good.

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any ideas why my tq is so low (i know, i know, 'it's a b16, that's why ;))_??? but seriously, i was thinking it would be around 200 wtq or so :-\

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I spent all the money I made this summer from my summer job on my motor. I'll cry if I break something. But 5psi felt good. :-*

Stan

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yeah, but what was the point in spending the money to build it if you're not going to use it to it's potential? just to say "i have a built motor", it's not like your pistons and rods make the car look nice ;) run at least 12 psi or so, that's nothing.

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Yea i'm a -----. I'll venture into 10psi someday. When I get this damn pipe on Wednesday to hook the charge pipes up to the turbo, i'll take the leap to 8psi. ;D

Stan
PS: get msn damnit!

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i can't, i'm at work, i have it at home, but my internet isn't up right now :P

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Next time your at the dyno, set your vtec at 5600~5800 you will have a nice smooth transition when it kicks in. Right now its set to low (yes stock is low) and it has a pretty good dip in power. On my ls/vtec turbo and crvtec high cam was set at 5900.

And damn, pats making more torque than you ;) hah, Most b16's lack the torque.

Good job kevin,

Jeff

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:o

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yeah, i just got a chip burner, so i'll be able to mess around with my tune some now, at least i have some base line numbers and i figured out my exhaust was definitely killing me and i had no idea of my afr's for 6 mos., at least now i know where i stand. i hope to have close to 300 in a month or so ;D

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That .60/.63 is really going to be running out of steam at 300whp. Dave was around 15psi and made 289 on his b16a with ITR cams and ITR IM.

Definatly time for a turbo upgrade ;)

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good idea ;D

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Get a new t4 wheel and I have a nice to4e compressor housing for ya. :)

Kevin, pm me with your msn addy.

Stan

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teg you might consider the stepwise retard instead of just retarding it 1 full degree throughout. Blundar has a lil formula thats on the uberdata tuning forums. Check it out.

http://www.ecimulti.org/uberdata/for...y;threadid=716

13.5 AFR while NA. 28 degrees timing at boost/NA transition peak power production. Timing retarded by 1 deg / 1000 RPM on top side of RPM band after peak power production.

12.5 AFR from 0psi to 3psi. retard 0.25 degrees cumulative by 3psi (i.e. 0.08 degrees/psi)

12.25 AFR from 3psi to 5psi. retard 0.75 degrees cumulative by 5psi (i.e. 0.25 degrees/psi)

12.0 AFR from 5psi to 7psi. retard timing 1.75 degrees cumulative by 7psi (0.5 degrees/psi)

11.5 AFR from 7psi to 10psi. retard timing 5 degrees cumulative by 10psi (0.75 degrees/psi)

Posted by: Blundar http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=861171

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looks good kevin :) get that baby tuned up and let us know what she does then. im hopin to put down around 300 hp on my b16. well when i get my turbo :P

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yeah, i'm aware, i just haven't done any tuning to it yet, but yeah, i plan on running as much timing as i can get away with, 1* per psi is a lot! that and the coler plugs is prolly the only reason i'm not detonating when my afr leans out to 13.5 under almost full boost :P

hell yeah, some tuning is definitely in order. i took my whole exhaust off right after this and running open dp, damn, what a difference!! ass dyno says i picked up at LEAST 15-20 whp!! my exhaust set up consisted of a 2.5" dp, straight to stock cat, right after the cat, the exhaust hit about 1.75" for a very small section, and then opened up to 2" crush bent the rest of the way, so you can only imagine how restrictive that was for a turbo :P i'm also getting a clutch this weekend and filling in my motor mounts (every single one is tore to pieces), and i'll be hitting the track next thursday.

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hey kevin, i know this guy in town who has an old lap top equipped with uberdata, and can do some datalogging as long as the ecu is ported for it...you can use it anytime :P

and i pmd you about the clutch...should be getting it tonite.

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yeah, just need a wbo2 or pay 120 bucks an hour to go the dyno :P we'll be tuning soon though, the way things are looking, i should have a wb before too long ;D i wonder if larry would rent his out to me for a couple hours :P