Tires to run on the street
 

I don't hook first, second and a good part of 3rd on the street on shitty all-seasons.

I'm not the greatest driver in the world granted, but I'm looking to step it up tire-wise.

Local guys are recommending Falken rt-615's as a full street tire, whereas I'd prefer to run a full DOT legal slick.

Tires will be used at the track, and rolling around on Friday/Sat night streetraces only.

Suggestions?

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does it NEEDS to be all -season or not, and what are the tire sizes you are looking for.

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alignment and suspension does wonders

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I am running a cheap set of Fuzion HRI's by Dunlap. 45 bux a tire lol

195/60/14 They hook damn good for me on the street. Great for the money IMO

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Drag radials when your out looking for races... All season tires when your going grocery shopping...

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Azenis worked great for me. Drag Rads. last like ----.

Street racing is for idiots!

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your right on that.
I dont street race, but test and tune on back,back roads

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I race at the high school at lunch to pick up chicks

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I am actually looking for 195/60/14 tires too but on a daily drive.
all i can see is expensive or cheap summer tires that don`t last too long or long lasting all season that i don`t think will do too good on cornering :S

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Yokohama AO48's are sweet if you have the money.

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For the street races, fill your winshield washer fluid bottle with vht trackbite. Route the hoses in front of your tires. Spray durning your burnout to lay a couple hot sticky patches to backup into...

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No, I'll keep the tires on it now for daily driving, like I said this is just Fri/Sat nights + at the strip on weekends.

Car is riding at most a half inch lower than stock on GR-2s and some coilovers, any pointers as to how I can setup the suspension on it without breaking the bank?

Pretty much, but ---- cornering, I need to hookup in a straight line. I've heard good things about the Azenis, they're probably the stickiest thing going short of full race tire.

------- genius, but VHT doesn't mention how long the trackbite needs to sit for it to be effective, personal experience proves it works or were you throwing out ideas?

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Azenis are absolute garbage! You hear they are great from people in the sub 200hp range. I had them, hated them and were ---- in the rain almost dangerous infact. I could roast them off through 2nd and squak them hard in 3rd. I just got rid of them for a set of BFG G-force KDW's and these tires do infact GRIP! At 300whp they can barely break them loose at the top of second (full spool) and nothing in 3rd. Great tires well worth the pricetag. They kick ass in the rain too.

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No, I hear that from the fastest auto-x guys around these parts, and I wouldn't be driving the tires in the rain.

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Don't get me wrong they had great lateral grip but straight line sucked. Ask your autox buddies that.

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Yeah, probably.

What kind of 60' times are you cutting with the BFGs?

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not race car tires by any means, but i have some toyo proxes 4 on my car right now and they're pretty damn good in corners and really awesome in the rain.

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I wouldnt know. I have a set of slicks for the track :)

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DR FTW all the time on the street 8)

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what is DR :P

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Dirt racing tires, ThEmZ hOoKz uP liKeS JDM TirES O0

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BFGs, or Nitto's?

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BFG g-force DR's be kickin yo.

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Just tossing out an idea. I haven't had the chance to try it myself, yet...

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I use the new style azernis and i love em. ill be going to to the track with them tomorrow iff plans go right. i honestly dont thinkk their wet performance is as horrible as everyone claims. i use these for my dd and have no problem driving in any weather

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Yeah, I hear very good things about the Rt-615s, Bizzar were you using the old or the new?

Yeah, it might work. I know sodapop works pretty well too on the cheap, dunno if that would dry up quick enough either if you were doing a burnout on it.

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Azenis are for bandwagon jumpers and honda-tech fags, get some BFG's ;)

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bfg drag radials hook up the best on the street but i would only buy them if you have money to change them every oil change. the nittos 555r's hook up almost as good but last 3 times as long as the bfg's

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Did you have the RT-615? or the old poorly design compound peices of ----?

I know many people running RT-615s with more then 270whp and have no complaints.

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Azenis have a stiffer sidewall than a DR, and are less forgiving of bad alignments. From 15 to 20 roll they are better than BFGs. ZERO SUSPENSION SLOP and ALIGNMENT WITH CAMBER ADJUSTMENT will get you halfway there. Next you play with springrates which cause changes in idealcamber settings as the nose stops coming up as high. Racecars run 900 plus rear springs, but streetcars you play with until you find something you can live with cuz stiff rears are unpleasant and squirrelly. Look to m&h DOT slicks, and save the trackbite for moneyraces or dead tires because two days later tires are hard as Big Wheels.

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Damn, and I was liking that trackbite idea...

Camber adjustment I would need to do with the car raised to the point where it would sit during a launch, yes?

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Not sure I follow you? 300 whp in 1800 lbs is enough to make rear end bob up and down with 450 lb springs and slicks. 450 lb rears in an 1800 lb streetcar is pretty harsh on the street, but at the track it results in too much dynamic cambering to maintain ideal contact patch. Also, good idea to limit front susp travel so nose cant lift too high. Oh, yeah, ---- vtech.

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Azenis are crap. I have run both and the new RT-615 has a nicer compound (more consistent), but they don't grab as nice as the older ones. I now run Nitto 555 DR's. 10x better than Azenis, but they have a 2:1 price compared to the Azenis.

I'm going to try some 235/60 15 BFG DR's in the future. Kinda 4x4, but they have a nice contact patch.

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I think he's talking about lifting the front end so his camber will be at, or neer where it is at the track. So he's at or neer 0 camber when the front end lifts, and is sitting with alitte more than normal negitive camber regularly. To correct this 'dynamic cambering' issue.

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As ride height, suspension travel, and tire OD change so does the entire alignment. It goes beyond just camber. Toe can ---- traction just as hard, but most people realise its happening since the toe is "okay" at cruise and during parking lot maneuvering, and with how loud the average rice-a-roni turbo car is you don't hear the tires "scrabbling" even after you get traction in the higher gears. By the time you learn to drive the car, tire wear patterns have already ruined the tire and most don't realise they have a problem.

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I buy wal-mart tires and let them sit in VHT for a few hours. They last about 2 months.

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Yeah, I'm thinking about limiting straps.

Ding ding ding.

Poop, seems there is more going on here than I thought. Will a general alignment fix any of these issues or am I going to have to step it up to a race shop?

How do they hook? I can buy used tires for 10 bucks each around here, if not get them free, so that's a viable alternative.

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x2 O0

Love mine, just got em 1000 miles ago, but they grip, well....... Latterally as well.