sikcrx89

care to elighten me chris

AIM: sikefcrx please... i want to pick your brain

Tom-Guy

Aside from the custom IM ----, and the minor non-issue of offset exhaust ports, I can't think of anything that doesn't exist for a 4-500 whp ZC that isn't as cheap as the equivalent D16 part. Exactly where are you taking this build

Sweet, and make 150 whp @ 5400 rpms off B16 cams. Classic.

It'd cost less to do a high CR LS with 404's after everything is said and done, the powerband would have gobs more midrange despite the 200cc displacement difference, and the peak power per buck is still higher with the LS.

90dx

If you read my post you would see i said "im sure if you dig around you could come up with some cams for cheap" I didnt mean limp **** B16 cams that would have already came in the head.IE get some aftermarket/ITR etc cams.The only B20 vtec i rode in had ITR or something cams and intake mani and it pulled pretty nice for a pretty much stock motor.

losesomethinbra

If you dont push it too far powerwise, it should all be in the tune

sikcrx89

to be completely honest.. if i were to build the motor for another boost project i want it to be as bullet proof as it can be.. sleeves,JGE PRO series head with there complete valve train and cams,there IM. plus all the turbo stuff all over again.. and i want power but i also want a certain look.. i had almost all the WATER/AIR stuff ironed out as we had talked about.. but money is short right as of this minute and cant buy want i want in the block as well as head work among other things.. i would also buy no used parts but off the shelf stuff as pics dont tell the whole story when buying online.. i am looking for something to get me buy i decide if i even want to go turbo again to tell you the truth.. i have really given alot of thought and think maybe it would be best to throw a good rebuild on the zc for now with slightly bigger cams.. a decent P&P and and the JGE valvetrain (minus valves) and run with it as that would be the quickest most reliable setup i can think of.. i just want a decent amount of power in a car that i can have fun with and not worry about oil leaks or blown turbo seals till i can do one the right way..

Slo_crx1

Marcus...
Sorry I didn't get a chance to call you back, been doing 13 hour days of mandatory OT at work. Anyway, back to topic...
Any way you look at it it's going to cost. If you semi-built low-buck fun with really good power, hell...since you already have a partial mini-me setup, why not just do a cheap vitara setup with a set of rods and a nice little t3 or 16g? It could definitely be done for under $1k, and as Corey can tell you you can make some really good power off this low-dollar setup and still be decently reliable. The step up to B-series costs, plain and simple, and like Chris said trying to find a tranny is like digging for gold. Once and while you come across a steal, but for the most part people want top dollar for beaten up trash. Also, if you pop a D-series motor or crack the block, you're only out a few bucks as compared to a b-series. Eventually B-series will disappear, and I'm sure a lot of people can attest to how hard it is to find good condition b-series motors these days. IMHO d-series is what you should stay with (and that's speaking from my experience too), and if you really want to keep the zc goodness, you can always build that while you rip on your low-dollar monster.