Tom-Guy

It's a bloated pile of ----. Admittedly, some installs of XP are as well but they are only just now getting a handle on stripping the fat that can bog even top end systems.

I do not approve of Microsoft selling Vista for 99 cents to any laptop manufacturer who agrees not to make the laptop XP compatible. There is a 2-3 year span of laptop production where 95% of th market is comprised of useless gear I wouldn't wipe my *** with.

Most tuning programs won't work on it. Software support is NOT there which is the #1 reason nobody in the Fortune 500 is converting over to it, even though SP1 cleared up 98% of the basic stability issues. The only thing Vista currently does correctly is surf the web and play games... I like doing both but it goddamn ***** me anytime I try to do something useful.

Yes, Vista is the wave of the future. 2 year minimum before it's refined enough for me to bother with a Vista/XP dual boot. If they polish it like they did XP it will eventually be just as stable, and it will be just as worthwhile, but that moment in time is not now.

Tom-Guy

Yah, I'm going to play with both Vista and XP Media Center when I get a DIY projector up and running. The PC will be a 3.2 Ghz P4, but sliiightly short on RAM, so I expect the XP to fly better regardless of what I do.

Tom-Guy

cliffs:

- Vista needs a higher end computer to function correctly
- Microsoft is populated by egocentric ******** (Bill Gates, Brian Spiker, etc)
- JD isn't saying ---- Vista... he's saying ---- Vista RIGHT NOW, and possibly ---- Vista For Tuning, Forever.

Jorsher

Yeah, I'm with you on that. I think I used Windows 98 until around 2003-2004, when I felt XP was stable enough for a permanent spot on my harddrive.

XP also used to be called bloated, but once PC specs caught up, it didn't seem bloated anymore. I run WinXP Pro SP3 on my antiquated AMD 2400 and 1gb of ram, and it runs smooth as better. LOADS better than my mother's "new" computer with a 2.66ghz celeron (yes, I know celeron is the ---- of the crop) and 512mb of ram running XP Home.

I'm sure Vista is bloated, but not sure it's bloated to the degree it's made out to be. Most people experience it on storebought computers that come pre-loaded with soooooooooo much garbage, it's ridiculous. I've tried talking my mother into letting me format and install a fresh copy of XP without the Dell Garbage Pack 2.0, but she adamantly believes it's slow because of the software I put on it (uTorrent and FireFox).

skittersk8er

i got vista. i hated the hell out of it at first but slowly got used to it.sometimes its really fast and sometimes its like ---- i mite as well be on my cheap *** desktop. sidenote i have a dell xps that i jewed myself on.lol. 3 gigs of ram and 2 gh processor. so it runs pretty good. now that im used to it i dont really care for xp any more cept for the admin. bullshit on vista. but there is a way around that if u search on the net. i got crome running on it with the moates burner. now the real fun will begin when i try to datalog.lol. i bet it takes like an hour to get it to work.lol. still i love vista now and wouldnt go back. it has so many things that xp doesnt.



Yea it's bloated, but so is any new OS compared to the older counterpart. Just disabling services that are unnecessary to you will speed things up a good bit.

wat things could i get rid of that i dont need. all i do is search the intra web, dl ---- and use crome. so wat can i get rid of.

fork

I've tried to use my moms laptop with vista to print things on a new printer she bought with the laptop. I've tried to print things 2 time and both times it hasbeen a cluster ----