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Well I have found an 1986 Iroc with out an engine (sounds stupid but its a kit car). I was wondering if i could some how manage to fit in an LS1. I think the Iroc had a 305 in it and the LS1 is a 350 if not mistaken. I have been searching for a while but I haven't had much look to a real answer to that. Sry this is kinda stupid.

Thanks,
Tom

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from what I know about domestics, the 305 and the 350 are both small blocks, so the block is the same size so the 350 will fit in the same space as the 305.

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you can put a 350 in it. its realy easy to do. or you can step up to a bigger engine like a 385 witch is like 450hp a 425 the 440 or a 502. i wouldent spend the money on an ls1 from the vette i would just go with a pretty basic block then build it up. if you can find one the pontiac 400 is a realy good engine. but an lt1 can make some sick power when its stroked with some built heads. or you could get a 350 save some engine compartment room. and throw a twin turbo setup on it if you get one of the efi v8's

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You know I was thinking some thing very simular to that. I just hope I am not mistaken I really would like to get this car. Because I still want to do that quad turbo LS1, but I think the Fiero would be cramped as hell and would over heat like nothing else. Any one else have more Input?

Thanks
Tom

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with the 425 up your going to have to change the engine mounts but the 385 you wont

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ive seen a quad turbo 440 at the strip on a dragster. i talked to the dude about it he said it made about 2700hp. now that is some sick ass ----. he ran a mid 3 in the 8th

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anybody know where to get the efi 350s? my dad wants one for his 65 chevy and I haven't been able to find one, I would like it complete with the wiring harness and ecu so I don't have to ---- with all of that and it's nice and easy.

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What is the 385 out of? Idk I would prob. end up going for a twin turbo t3/t4 setup. But i haven't looked at the charts and such yet. I would love to get up to 500hp but man any thing higher would rule. I am kind of a newbie, and I am just really interested in learning right now so any information you have would be very nice.

Thanks,
Tom

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wow this has to be the most fucked up quantity of information I've seen in a single post. What exactly is a 385? Would that be a 350 stroked to a 400 crank and bored over .040 versus the typical bore over of .030 in a 383?

I don't feel like looking up the formula right now but something is off.

Yes the LS1 will fit, many people have done it. A decent used LS1 will run you around a grand but I think the compression is a bit high for you to throw quad turbo power to it.

What exactly are you looking for Kyle? If it's a "fuel injected" 350 then go pick the electronic carb off of any pre vortec style chevy 350 and run with that. Better yet go standalone that will run you around a grand.

I think I'll let random-strike finish this thread off.

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Well just looking at the differences between my beater 86 Elcamino w/a 350 and my dad's LS1 in his 98 vette..

Elco has a distributor, carb, vaccuum advance, old school tech. Easier to tune. To a point

Vette Distributorless Coil on Plug, still a pushrod PAIN IN THE ASS TO WIRE IN I WOULD THINK!!!
The blocks are the same in the 305/350.

The Mythical 383 is as u stated a 350 w/a 400crank which is the 30 possibly .60 over.

What u drop in to this vehicle is based on what u want it for. For the glitz and glamour effect LS1!

Or Dime a dozen easy to fix driver go oldschool carbed!

And the price difference is insane between the 2!
Ls1 will cost all said and done $3000ish w/loom

An HEI style old Chevy shouldn't be more than a grand total for a good running vehicle.

Or the pre vortec engines the Throttlebody junk engines
but i won't even get into that!

I'm no chevy expert just stating what little I know.
Good luck either way!

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Quadnie you are the person I was looking for Earlier. Stop killing poor defenceless animals and get ur ass on AIM some time. I was looking at the LT1 as well quadnie but I want to know which one can handle more boost with stock internals even though i will prob, try to bore it a bit and get better piston heads. I was looking as LS1's in the $grand area, but LT1's aren't that much better. Sorry if what I have been saying is incohearent I been missing a bit of sleep latly.

Thanks,
Tom

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385 could be a crate motor but i doubt it lmao


um dont you think it'll be very cut and dry to swap an LS motor into that car.

if i was you id find a old shitty 350 block out of a truck or something and rebuild it to whatever specs you want.

or buy a crate engine. <--- best bet

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302 for life, nigguh! ;D

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The LS1 is simply the best.Period. Of course its always going to cost more to get "the best" and the its true in this case.

The Ls1 will fit in that car very easily, BUT the wiring and fuel manigment are going to cost a lot too.

On top of all that... If you need to ask questions about which 350 will fit in a camaro, then you have no businuss looking at a quad turbo V8...

The Iron block LS1 truck motor is prob. the strongest motor to beat on.

The LT1 isn't bad at all, but your going to have to spend almost the same amount to get the LS1 to work, so why not use the LS1.

The LS1 is can power its heavy ass camaro to a 12.20 bone sotck with a 100shot, so a modded LS1 with a 125 could push 11's pretty easy.

One more note. The quad turbo set-up would cost more than your car, engine, engine manigment, and tag/tax/title !!! A simple single turbo set-up on an LS-1 cost over $5K !!!! ( makes over 500whp on 7 psi too !!!! ). If you've got that kinda money to "sling around", just buy a benz E55 ( runs 12.4 with 4-doors, warrenty, and its a benz !!! ).

Quad turbo = stupid.
Twin turbo road race v8 = bad ass
Single/twin turbo V8 drag racing = bad ass
period.

For the money you may as well swap in a 2JZ ( no ---- !! )

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5 grand for a quad setup?? hahaah that is if you're buying a kit.
This is HMT man...let the man do his thing...he can get 4 cheap little turbo's and slap it on...the fule management would be my only concern.

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took the words out of my mouth...

also, someone asked about engines, go to like
www.hemmings.com and search for the motor. you will be able to find one from one of those old hot rod guys. or find a swap meet to go to.(search events also on hemmings) take cash with you and a pick-up truck.

look around... they are everwhere.

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So you think a guy that doesn't know if you can swap a LS-1 into an older camaro has the skills/tools to fabricate his own quad turbo stuff ? NO.

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damn once again 89dxhunchback spits out the facts so I don't have to. You need to start whoring up in a Forced Induction more so I don't have to.

yes a quad turbo setup wouldn't be that hard. The LS1 is overated, hard for compatability in many cars (well not a camero). The LT1 I've always had the best luck with, but I think the cheap easy route would be to just find a nice high nickel content sbc (prob from the 70s), a 350 or 327.. slap some nice n cheap aluminum trick flow heads on it and start your setup. Engine management will have to be standalone, those units start at a grand (I'll provide links when I find them on my other computer). Quad turbo isn't that hard, with engine management out of the way the tough part will be feeding the turbos with oil and other mount fabrication work.

Would be a lot easier to just twin turbo something, considering 4 turbos cost twice as much as 2 turbos. Twin turbo you could easily run with a carb setup. Check this website out:

http://www.2quicknovas.com/index2.html

One of these days when Bruce gets back to busting ass with his car I'm gonna try and get him to this website, he is a bright dude with lots of ideas.