Someones 4G63T Powered Civic Project
 

http://www.keenelandcars.012webpages.com/civic2.htm

someone sent that to me, obviously its just chillin in there with nothing else done. anyway as a Talon owner I found it somewhat amusing :)

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its alright but it just seems like a waste of money and most of all time. everyone knows its easier to just swap in a b-series and turbo it and you'll be straight!

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gotta love how much hp those motors can take in stock form though

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yeah true that!! i wouldnt mind getting a 1st gen gsx or gst and upgrading the ---- out of the turbo mods and up the boost!!

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here is 1 or 100 reasons not to

1 = If you've ever had to explain crankwalk to a mechanic....
2 = If you have a garage full of spare engines, just in case....
3 = If you've tried to bolt your old 14b onto a riding lawnmower....
4 = If you've hit your head on the B-pillar during an AWD launch....
5 = If you have a running tab at the local tranny shop....
6 = If you go rallying in your daily driver....
7 = If your driveway has divets in it cause your car never moves....
8 = If you have a trophy case full of Honda and Mustang emblems...
9 = If you eat "rice" for dinner....
10 = If people recognize your car by the sound of it's lifter tick....
11 = If you drive 5 extra blocks for a gas station that has 1 more octane point.
12 = If you get refused on your tread wear warranty every time you have tried, because of poor alignment.
13 = If you bought half of your performance parts at Home Depot.
14 = If every time you beat up a V8, they tell you that something was wrong with their car.
15 = If you find yourself hanging with bikes out of the hole.
16 = If people ask you what's wrong with your car because it keeps making this noise.
17 = If your freinds get beat in a race and call you immediately after to rematch for them.
18 = You have had to send a tow truck back to the towing garage because you needed a flat-bed.
19 = You always request parts for an Eclipse because the parts stores always lookup the AMC Eagle.
20 = You drop whatever you are doing when the UPS man brings a new part for the car. And then spend the rest of the day installing it.
21 = You only carry a Palm Pilot to log your engine's data.
22 = You change your tires, plugs and fuel curves for the winter.
23 = You know more about the 4G63 engine than some engineers at Mitsubishi.
24 = Your wife/girlfriend wishes your car never exsisted.
25 = Your wife/girlfriend wishes DSMtalk never exsisted....
26 = if you think your dsm should have come with a flatbed/tow truck following you from the factory
27 = If its one of the few imports a big fat farm kid can work on.
28 = If you lose a race and the other guy says "Damn that cars fast!"
29 = your car spends more time being broken than being driven
30 = you dont let people drive your car into the bays because its "quirky"
31 = you spent more fixing it than it cost
32 = your eye automatically catches EVERY dsm that drives by on the highway
33 = your out driving/fixing in the winter more then you EVER wanted to be.
34 = if it's a 2g non spyder, you quickly check to see if it has stock dual pipes. then turn back to see you are swerving off the road
35 = before racing someone, you 90% of the time know their engine, hp, and performance specs. and you usually know if you will win or not
36 = right before u start modding, some damn matainence thing breaks down (i.e. alternator, starter)
37 = u barely have money for fun time (teenagers)
38 = u wake up in the morning look out the window and go "ahhh, what a nice car" / you wake up and see your damn broken car and curse up a storm
39 = you look at riced out civics and roll your eyes
40 = right after you get your paycheck, you get online and spend it all on parts the same day.
41 = Every tire shop/parking garage/car wash/repair shop guy stalls out when he lets out your ACT 2600 clutch.
41 = Every car with an alarm triggers in parking garages as to say "hello".
42 = Your exhaust note is so deep and unique that people expect you to pass by 1/4 mile before you get there.
43 = You wonder where all your money goes.
44 = when you go to fix something minor you ALWAYS expect a major hassle and something else is GOING to go wrong.
45 = dsmtalk.com is the best website to visit. no correction -THE ONLY WEBSITE TO VISIT!-
46 = If your on a diet because you ran out of weight reductions for your car...
47 = If a junk yard to you is an upgrade yard.....
48 = If your car consists of parts from more than 10 other DSMs.....
49 = If you always have to show your car in a garage.....
50 = If you take offense to the word Riceburner.....
51 = If you have a stick in your car, that's job is to prop up the hatch.....
52 = If your pasanger window takes more that five minutes to get all the way up.
53 = If you never put more than a quarter tank of gas in your car.....
54 = If your DSM is the most unreliable car you have ever owned, but still your favorite......
55 = the letters d-s-m-t-a-l-k on your keyboard are so worn off your keys on your keyboard that you can hardly make them out anymore.
56 = The UPS guy comes over for a beer on a regular basis
57 = Your bucket of extra parts pulls 60 bucks on eBay
58 = Paypal.com sends you christmas cards
59 = An average oil change involves fresh oil, new filter and draining the catch can.
60 = The pages of your shop manual have more wear than the tires on your car.
61 = You know the meaning of VFAQ.
62 = Some people would like to go to Europe, you'd like to visit Normal IL.
63 = You get in alot of races because your car "auto-revs" for you.
64 = You've custom fabricated a carbon fiber cup holder
65 = You've almost been strangled to death by the automatic seat belt.
66 = You can launch your oil dip stick 20ft.
67 = You know that your car has a built in toolbox under the hood....
68 = If a honda owner ever looked at you funny when you say "free mods"
69 = You have a bucket full of nuts and bolts and your car seems to run fine and you can't figure out where the heck they go.
70 = you have pieces of 6 different turbos in a box and they are all smoked.
71 = you carry ahydraulic jack with in your car at all times
72 = when being towed you have to lift the front end of the car with your hands so the intercooler clears.
73 = people call your car "valdez" after the oil tanker.
74 = When the flatbed finally comes, you ask the tow guy for a piece of wood to put under your right rear tire (or left, if it's a 2G) so you don't scratch your muffler
75 = If your AWD is equipped with automatic windshield wipers enabling system after every hard launch... (1G)
76 = If everytime you launch, you can't see the damn road all the way through 1st gear (AWD)
77 = Your headliner that's falling off combs your hair every morning (1G)
78 = You hear a different vibration inside your car for different RPM points (1G)
79 = You are afraid to grab your Crank Pulley and check for play (2G 7-bolt)
80 = Modification of #19: You tell the Auto Parts Store and anybody for that matter you have an Eclipse because nobody knows WTF is an Eagle Talon...
81 = you have watched 3 passengers break their glasses on the idiot belts
82 = when people say "is your car running again?" you say "kinda"
83 = every time you work on your car you end up with more bolts than you started with
84 = you have a laptop with a datalogger and manual CD on it in your car at all times
85 = you have ever explained "fuel cut" to a scared female passenger
86 = people that can "drive stick" stall your car out 5 times before they get it out of the driveway
87 = people think you are just revving your car in neutral when in fact it is 1st gear (fwd dsmers)
88 = you have gotten in many arguements on how "your car CAN't be THAT fast". it is a friggin 4 cylinder mitsubishi!!!
89 = you have to explain to a mechanic of 35+ years what "boost creep" is.
90 = if you slam 2nd hard enough your wipers turn on
91 = you buy a k&n filter and call it an "intake"
92 = you thought you blew up your dsm but in fact the dipstick popped out and sprayed oul all over the manifold causing massive smoke
93 = when someone asks you how the car is running you never say "awesome" or "great", just "its running"
94 = you hate the "hump" (1G AWD)
95 = your friend with a 5.0 says "at least my car is reliable"
96 = a normal weekend involves removing your transmission 5 times.
97 = you work all week so you can fix your dsm on weekends
98 = your friends think "phantom knock" is some sort of ghost movie
99 = If you drive your car for 10 minutes, park if for 2 hours, come back out...it only takes 2 minutes to have the heat full blastin again.
100 = You hear non-informed DSM'ers saying that chrysler over-all as a company sucks..and you have to reinform them

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ok ok, i get the point......i dont want one then ::) i know they suck but its all in how you take care of it too, dont you think?!?

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i love my gst, but its not a honda :'(

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projekteg...not even half of those were bad or even about the engine, lol ;)

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i've got 268 more, but it wouldn't let me post all of them ;)

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that ---- is funny... but true and i don't even have an eclipse. ;D

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I don't like car brandname crossbreeding

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101 = After racing the honda boys with their "pimped" out cars you have to pop your hood for them to belive your cars almost completely stock
102 = You've owned something with the name Horsecock in it....;-)
103 = You are completely dumbfounded when people say that eclipses and talons are hot but lasers are slow?
104 = your mom claims a 4500 rpm launch "throws her back out"
105 = When over the school's intercom you hear "Excuse me but the white mitsubishi eclipse is still running."
106 = When you get asked at least once a week if
'That Hump' is supposed to be on your hood.
107 = Your friends with the tow company and they stop by every weekend to see what the new "project" is this weekend.
108 = You dance every morning when your car cranks over.
109 = when you ask your friend with a tow truck to tow your car every other day...
110 = your "grocery getter" is a 12 sec car... lol
111 = You have the shop mannuel memorized
112 = The local shop calls you to ask a question about a broken eclipse they have in there shop.
113 = when people driveur car...and ask-whats that noise...you always reply with-which one
114 = people driving ur car for the first time...get a new understanding forthe word torque steer -(fwd) (even if they are *expierenced drivers*
115 = You wonder why the used oil only fills 2 of the 5 quarts you just put in.
116 = You have your girlfriend drive you "far" distances becuase you actually want to get there.
117 = You drive all around town, aimlessly, when it's running "right".
118 = Every time you scrape the front bumper, you and everyone else in the car feel the pain.
119 = You wake up in the middle of the night, stumble to the computer and subconsiously type in DSMTALK DOT COM !!!!
120 = everytime billy badass mustang driver says "buy a domestic" you scream at the top of your lungs "IT IS A ------- DOMESTIC YOU DUMB ----!"
121 = If you can navigate at night with our 2 candle powered headlights.......
122 = If at one point you could punch the gas and get the spy-hunter smoke screen.......
123 = If you avoid car conversations with new people, so you don't have to start from scratch.......
124 = If your stock boost gauge reads 9 but you know it means 19......
125 = If you tell people you have a two seater so that you don't have to watch them suffer in the back seats.....
126 = If you need to call someone to fetch your spare when you get a flat........
127 = If you have ever lit a cigarette off the exhaust manifold......
128 = If you have attemted sex in your car once, and vowed never to do it again.
129 = people who first drive your car and launches at 4500 and ask "why wont this thing burn out?!?!" (awd)
130 = people tell you the bump on your hood is a turbo bump, even when it's a NT
131 = You have a pile of burnt out clutches sitting in your room.
132 = Youve uttered the words, "Officer I dont think i was going that fast."
133 = You've had to explain how your turbo timer works to your mechanic.
134 = You show up at a friends house and their mom asks you why your car sounds like a truck.
135 = You always give your shop manual to the mechanic when bringing your car in for work.
136 = You go knocking on your 60 year old neighbour's door sometimes to ask him if he can help you with a jump start.
137 = On some nights you pray that someone should come steal your car.
138 = You hold your breath and pray to god when making left turns (2Gs)
139 = DSMtalk.com is your homepage
140 = You always tell the person that is crammed in the backseat to watch their head when you hit a bump.
141 = You get spanked by a supercharged Mustang and he tells you that out of all imports he's raced you hung the best, and that he doesn't even waste time on the "other" imports anymore.
142 = Your first investment for your car should have been a lift.
143 = Your car won't start when the temperature gets below zero.
144 = Your girlfriend knows what DSM stands for.
145 = Your girlfriend laughs her ass off when she's riding with you and a Honduh revs on you.
146 = Your car was faster 2 years ago than all your friend's cars are now.
147 = You can put on a big turbo and run 25 psi on a completely stock motor.
148 = While browsing the internet you have 2 or more windows of DSM Talk open!
149 = Your Mom knows what DSM stands for
150 =The mechanic gets a shocked look on his face when you tell him its got AWD
151 =You see a truck stuck in the snow, and you drive right by
152 =You say a grinding transmission is "normal"
153 = You carry a "little" toolset in the trunk, "just in case"
154 = When your friends know that you are coming just by hearing your car turn the corner.
155 = You save up for your dream turbo setup instead of your dream body kit.
156 = You bought that exhaust because it's 3in and thats not the tip size.
157 = You dont tell people you have an Eclipse, Talon or Laser. You just say that you drive a DSM
158 = Guys in V-8s are afraid to race you
159 = If your girlfreind prays that a contender doesn't stop at the light next to you.....
160 = If you still put down 13 second track times in the rain.......
161 = If every time you wrench you find more stuff that your car doesn't need.......
162 = If you try to race a random car and realize you just raced him last week.......
163 = If you think the the 3G is the STUPIDEST idea ever......
164 = If you have had to remove your radiator fans, because they just don't fit in front of that Turbo.......
165 = If you capitalize the word Turbo as if it's a name......
166 = Youve explained what "DSM" means so many times, you have the speech memorised
167 = you go to an autoparts store and ask for Eagle Talon Parts hoping that those stupid people think they are cheaper than the Mistubishi Eclipe parts.
168 = youve spent at least an hour on how Turbo isnt the actual engine but a separate component, then you lose the people you are explaining it to at the "blow off valves"
169 = "What's a Talon?" "Its the same as the Eclipse" "what?!" "shut up and race"
170 = your wallet is full of autozone/autoparts reciets/lifetime warrantys in place of money
171 = If you have ever talked to someone who was sure that the Turbo in your car is a transmision.
172 = When at the strip you sit around with the Z28s and WS6 guys and talk ---- about hondas
173 = when you hear "horsecock" you think of a shifter!
174 = When several people have nicknamed your car the "dumptruck" becuase of the replica exhaust note.
175 = When you spool right next to a kid with his window down and wwhHAA-- PSHSHhhh, blow off and break the poor kids neck, just becuse it's funny.
176 = When you're dad gets scared when you order more parts--becuase he drives a 350 small block with 410 gears.
177 = You know "who" Satan really is.
178 = The 10mm and 12mm sockets are the dirtiest in the set.
179 = You lose more 10mm and 12mm sockets in a month than most people do in 3 years.
180 = When the guy you are racing puts up his window in the middle of the race when you hit full boost.
181 = The black deposits on the rear bumper are now "part of the paint"
182 = You get scared if, when launching, you don't hear a series of loud thumps coming from under the car.
183 = You get worried if you STOP smelling fuel/oil/exhaust while driving.
184 = Your mind starts to race when your CEL goes off.
185 = You think the hump 'adds character'
186 = When something on the car breaks, you spend hours on the internet researching a better, faster, and cheaper part
187 = You have almost rear-ended too many people to count because you were trying to see if that was a gs-t or a gs etc.
188 = The word crankwalk is enough to give you chills, and you believe it is a product of 'satan'
189 = You KNOW something is wrong when your CEL goes away
190 = If on more than one occasion an old guy in a Vette has said "what the hell do you have in there"?
191 = If you buy a Super Sized drink, because you have a place to put it
192 = If you price out performance parts that you can't afford to buy
193 = If you get a sick feeling in your stomach every time someone tries to BS a track time
194 = If you own stock in an octane booster company
195 = If you have over boosted without consideration of the cosequenses, just to see what she does
196 = If you though you invented something, then later found a thread describing the same thing on DSMtalk
197 = If you have a favorite stop light
198 = If you drive around the puddles to stage
199 = If you PORT on Friday night, while your freinds are out drnking

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lol...i love the dodgibishi cars (ive had a talon and a 3000gt, although i didnt really like the gt all that much)

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Oh man... my old Eclipse lifters were so damn noisy my girlfriend could here that ticking ---- when i was coming to pick her up... it pissed her off.....

Damn the memories....

http://www.keenelandcars.012webpages.com/6civic.jpg
Can You say Identity Crisis????? I can...

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Frankly, I love my Talon and 4g63. Most driveline failure are due to assclowns pouring on power and dumping the clutch like its a FWD or RWD car. I will admit the 7 bolt blocks (especially 95+) motors have a SERIOUSLY FLAWED thrust bearing design. The 89-91 motors (only thing I use) are very solid motors.... they prove that day after day. If any of you follow DSM racing, John Shepard is now in the 8's with his truly streetable Talon AWD. I think the first person to make a working/affordable 4g63 swap kit for EG's will be a wealthy man.

Also going further if any of you subsribe to Turbo magazine, a Porsche 911 with a 4g63 sitting in the trunk is featured "Porschebishi".

http://www.boneheadperformance.com/ericscar.html

The article has full build pics, so if you're in the supermarket.. check it out :)

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I had a Eagle talon once. When I took it to get it inspected they wrote in the space that says MAKE OF VEHICE that it was an AMC. I laughed my ass of at that. American Motors went out of buisness in the early 80s, how the hell did that guy think they built this car. :o

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He was probobly being a smartass.

For those who don't know:

Chrysler started the Eagle brand in 1987 as an umbrella for the passenger cars it inherited from the purchase of American Motors-- the AMC Eagle four-wheel-drive wagon and the Renault Premier sedan. Former AMC-Jeep dealers became Jeep-Eagle dealers. The Talon, built by Mitsubishi in Normal Illinois died Sept. 30, 1998.

I found this sorry piece of info:

"Analysts told Reuter dropping Eagle now is a wise move because it will help Chrysler focus their resources in a very crowded market. U.S. sales for the Eagle brand fell 46 percent in 1996 from 1995, and have plunged another 46.5 percent in 1997 through August, to 11,927 cars -- about five cars for each of Chrysler's 2,340 Eagle dealers."

Besides the Talon.. everything Eagle had was ---- anyway :)

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besides the talon......ha ;)

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81 = you have watched 3 passengers break their glasses on the idiot belts

What's that got to do with a 4g63T in a civic ??

1G DSMs rock, I don't car what anyone says.. Dollar for dollar, pound for pound, they can be the most potent street machine ever !!! For half the price of a vette you can have a car that runs 11's, handles better than porches, stops better than a porche, and will do it all in the rain !!! To bad there interior lacks... But performance wise the 1G DSM is/can be the ultimate all-round machine.

I have its fat steriod injected brother, the 3/S.

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147 = You can put on a big turbo and run 25 psi on a completely stock motor.

seriously?? or is this guy talking out of his ass

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omg! you read that far ;) i know people that run 18psi all day long on stock engine (dsm)

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Ha .... *laughs* Good time in my 1G. Everytime I would launch, my goddamn windshield wipers would come on ... oh man .... I miss it .... :'(

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i have seen a 1g running 22 or 23 psi...had 120k on the bottom end

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esp on a lower compression 1g motor w/the big rods ... 18psi is kids play ;)

tons of people pushing 22-25 before putting rods in.

Jesus drives an iron block.

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i read the whole thing-its raining here and my tires are bald.... thats ------- crazy im sellin my car in a a couple months. hmm......

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whatever you do, don't buy a FWD. ... unless you like wheelhop, broken axels and even more spin :P

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NOOOOOOO, DON'T DO IT!!!

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na i dont think im going to-iv been looking at a A4 1.8t i need something a little more luxury type haha flame me for that one :)

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If you've got the cash get an S4 dude, they're swank.

wow this thread went all over the place...

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yea i wish i had the loot for a s4 but i dont :( anyway im not gonna have a license unless i can find johhny cochran some where so i gotta stay kinda stealth for a year or until i move to mexico